Subject: »[U21] World Cup Qualifiers

Fairness doesnt have anything to do with rules and rights.

In this case I said several times that the czechs have the right to put the players they want. But that is unfair with Uruguay and India. Fullstop.

There is little to argue about it. Its clearly unfair, and I can protest about it as many times that I want.

This is not protesting anymore this is you being super anoying over small issue and border line spamming. What is your agenda here, you want to punish managers for not selecting A squads?
Qualification matches will never be 100% fair, football its self is not fair because of the referee factor and others, but that's just all part of the game, deal with it and stop crying, because this is all you are doing. Just move on. Go protest some more important issues, that are really unfair. This is not worth never ending protest.

Btw. you will put A squad in meaningfull match in WC? What if you'll be coach of Uruguay in real life and 3 of your best players will injure themselves. Uruguys fans will eat you alive for this stupid decision..

:))

Spam is what I received through sk-mails... spam is what your czech friends did in the indian forum....
not replying to others posts.

This thread was quiet for a whole day. The one that bumped it up and kept writing about the same issue is you. I am now only replying. And I have the right to do so. I dont care if you believe xenophobia is ok (like your friends showed in your forum), dont care if you believe protesting = crying, dont care if my protest annoys you.

Nobody cared about India or Uruguay when you voted to lineup u20 players vs Canada... and you had the right to do so.

So ¿why should I care if my protest annoys you? I have the right to protest... so why should your mood be in my consideration?

As I said before: you dont have to be obliged or threattened with punishment to be fair. I am fair in every aspect of my life. Been fired from jobs for being fair against the company interest, and against my own interest... so I am fine with myself and have to proove nothing to none.

If my NT plays WC and another NT depends on my match, I will play with full team... AS I ALWAYS DID.


(edited)

Ok 1 last thing. I'm not responsibe for my czech friends or what they wrote somewhere, I have the dialogue with you, so stop implying I'm xenofob or whatever. I've never wrote a single insult to you, other that you are annoying, which I think you are based on your nonstop useless protesting.
If you protest so passionately, you should have some agenda (like forcing managers to always put A squad) otherwise it is just spamming or you having some issues..
What will be your next move? Protest managers that they are having better players? That is also kinda unfair advantage isn't it? Or may be you want to protest the concept of referees? You know they sometimes make bad and sometimes good decision, sounds bit unfair to me too.
If the situation I've described happened in real life you would be seen as the biggest fool in the world and Urugay fans would beat the hell out of you..
This is game and competition, it's absurd to compare it with your life/work experiences..

Ok 1 last thing. I'm not responsibe for my czech friends or what they wrote somewhere, I have the dialogue with you, so stop implying I'm xenofob or whatever.

Ok, I agree. I used "you" in plural... talking about everyone that rejected with insults my right to post in the czech forum, but I understand not everybody shares the same beliefs. Now that you make it clear its ok.

If you protest so passionately, you should have some agenda (like forcing managers to always put A squad) otherwise it is just spamming or you having some issues..

I dont find that rule anywhere. ¿Where does it say that to protest you should have an agenda organized in accordance with the rest of the forum members? Im sorry but, usually, every protest bothers... so I am not surprised that this protest bothers you. If you find a massive protest in the streets that cirumstancially is blocking traffic and you come home tired from work... the protest will bother you... and I understand it does but wont stop my protest because of that (because I have the right to protest). I repeat: its very similar to the argument you use to defend your position: if you have the right to play with u20 players even if the rest of the world is annoyed, I also have the right to protest even if the rest of the world is annoyed.

What will be your next move? Protest managers that they are having better players? That is also kinda unfair advantage isn't it? Or may be you want to protest the concept of referees? You know they sometimes make bad and sometimes good decision, sounds bit unfair to me too.

Thats all just your imagination. Never said something like that. Faced several situations in which random wasnt on my side and did not protest, because only random is to blame. In this case human beings are behind what happened... so I protest. Your absurd comparisson wont change the facts: you played with different strength against 2 direct rivals that compete between them for a place in the WC... and even worse: you plan to play with different strength with a third rival. And all of that is known and meditated decission. And so you've decided to be unfair. That has nothing to do with bad luck.

If the situation I've described happened in real life you would be seen as the biggest fool in the world and Urugay fans would beat the hell out of you..

As an NT manager I always tried to show an example. As teacher also did. Do it at work, at home and everywhere: I dont care if you see me as a fool because of being fair... being fair its just the correct thing, no matter if I loose. BTW, I am not requesting you to shoot yourself to be fair... only saying that you should use a balanced strength to every opponent. Not necessary to play with exactly the same players. And the world is so individualist because of your kind of thoughts: being fair is for fools.

This is game and competition, it's absurd to compare it with your life/work experiences..

¿Why? ¿What makes you think that a person that cant even be fair in an innocent game would be fair in his own life (that would risk real money, real friendship, etc)?

Its all the same: if you dont act fairly here, I cant imagine any reason why I should think you would in real life. Here its absolutelly free to be fair... in real life it may require you a real effort. And you cant even do that here.



(edited)

Peru is in the World cup

Congrats. Good job.

Ok already qualified with belgium for the next round although it was not that difficult now still one victory against austria and I'm satisfied. Don't know why I started reading everything before because you talked always about the same stuff :p everyone has a different opinion and that is what it makes interesting isnt it?

Hungary is in the World Cup :)

France too

Czech republic is in with full number of poits with only one goal conceded :)

Can someone please post here pots, please? :)

I think we will have to wait because not all matches are played yet , I don't know if there are still matches of any importance ...

two groups are not finished yet. Groups I and P. Situation in group P is not solved yet. Pots are still related to outcome in that group.

Those teams in groups I and P have already enough points that the pots are pretty much clear for all other teams though. If I didn't make mistakes these will be the pots:

pot 1
France
Czech Republic
Bulgaria
Spain
Poland
Finland
Slovakia
Romania or Portugal (depends on the result between those two)

pot 2
Germany
Belgium
Netherlands
Turkey
Argentina
Italy
Bosnia Herzegovina
Peru

pot 3
Romania or Portugal
England, Israel or China
Venezuela
Austria
Chile
Sweden
Croatia
Hungary

pot 4
Brazil
Estonia
Norway
Canada
Columbia
Switzerland
Ireland
Moldovia


Can someone confirm? ;)