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Subject: How to get started with Sokker tutorial
As of now, the head coach also contribute to general trainings by his individual skills, but that is expensive to cover for new started teams. However, reform is on the way.... viva la revolution.... there will be better coach setup available in some few seasons, so i wont invest too much in finding new coaches now.
Other skills than the trained one matter for general training (together with your assistants overall skills). I think overall skill of your main coach only affects the highest team-work your players can achieve, so it doesn't matter that much. There is an external tool called Sokker Asistente, it has a pretty nice FAQ where you can read how exactly coaches affect training: http://formulamanager.com/sokker/asistente, click FAQ and scroll down to "How do coaches influence training?"
Training stamina is a waste of time. You should choose a formation and a real skill (or skills) you want to train. This will be a simple guide for training defenders (in defender skill):
- get main coach with unearthly skill in defending and pace, other skills as high as you can afford (not counting goalkeeper and striker, these shouldn't be high as these skills don't matter for defenders)
- get 3 assistants at whatever level you can afford
- get 10 young defenders for training (every week 5 will play in league match as DEF and other 5 in friendly/cup match as DEF), I suggest not older than 18 years old. You need to look at the market for a week or two to see the prices that players are going for. The worst thing you can do is buy 10 young, but terrible players all in one day and then to not see any profit after a season of training because your players are still bad. Good rule: if you see a young player on market for less than 5k euro and no one else is interested in him (or only a one or two other managers) then he is most likely too weak to be worth training.
- get some old (age >30) players for the rest of your squad (gk, midfielders and attackers), you can easily buy very old players playing at rating ~50 almost for free. They will lose their skills slowly, but then when they are too weak you can just replace them)
- set your training to defending, DEF formation
- track your training progress every thursday with Plus or with some external tools, Sokker Asistente, Sokker Viewer are good ones. Players have hidden talent, after few weeks of training you will see which of your players have good talent and which don't, sell the ones with the worst talent and buy new ones.
- easily get millions of profit each season
One more tip, make a real own tactic, the ones from Charles Hill youtube channel linked in tutorial are a good base, just make an exact copy of one of them and then modify it to your liking. The worst thing in default tactics are the big holes between players in defence, you should have a solid wall of defenders, close together. Remember to set the position of players on pitch for every square.
Training stamina is a waste of time. You should choose a formation and a real skill (or skills) you want to train. This will be a simple guide for training defenders (in defender skill):
- get main coach with unearthly skill in defending and pace, other skills as high as you can afford (not counting goalkeeper and striker, these shouldn't be high as these skills don't matter for defenders)
- get 3 assistants at whatever level you can afford
- get 10 young defenders for training (every week 5 will play in league match as DEF and other 5 in friendly/cup match as DEF), I suggest not older than 18 years old. You need to look at the market for a week or two to see the prices that players are going for. The worst thing you can do is buy 10 young, but terrible players all in one day and then to not see any profit after a season of training because your players are still bad. Good rule: if you see a young player on market for less than 5k euro and no one else is interested in him (or only a one or two other managers) then he is most likely too weak to be worth training.
- get some old (age >30) players for the rest of your squad (gk, midfielders and attackers), you can easily buy very old players playing at rating ~50 almost for free. They will lose their skills slowly, but then when they are too weak you can just replace them)
- set your training to defending, DEF formation
- track your training progress every thursday with Plus or with some external tools, Sokker Asistente, Sokker Viewer are good ones. Players have hidden talent, after few weeks of training you will see which of your players have good talent and which don't, sell the ones with the worst talent and buy new ones.
- easily get millions of profit each season
One more tip, make a real own tactic, the ones from Charles Hill youtube channel linked in tutorial are a good base, just make an exact copy of one of them and then modify it to your liking. The worst thing in default tactics are the big holes between players in defence, you should have a solid wall of defenders, close together. Remember to set the position of players on pitch for every square.
if I find a weak coach with unearthly stamina, is he a good option to hire for my team?
If you have a better head coach at the moment, but need to train stamina for a few weeks, you could buy such a coach and make him headcoach and fire him after a while and use the better coach again. But this is mainly an option for new managers, so they won't spend all money on the wrong headcoach.
Buy another coach that has 2 unearthy skills, stamina and the skill you want to train, DEF training is the easiest. So it could also be 3 unearthy skills (defender, stramina and pace, keeper as low as possibe) But apparently things are going to change so to spend too much money is not worth it. Not sure how expensive coaches are on the TL. Maybe because a change is coming, coaches will be cheaper at the moment? And it also depends of how much money you have, if it is more than enough it is easier to spend a bit more as when you need all the money to invest in your players
https://sokker.org/transferSearch/trainer/1/pg/1/stam_min/16/sort/end
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If you have a better head coach at the moment, but need to train stamina for a few weeks, you could buy such a coach and make him headcoach and fire him after a while and use the better coach again. But this is mainly an option for new managers, so they won't spend all money on the wrong headcoach.
Buy another coach that has 2 unearthy skills, stamina and the skill you want to train, DEF training is the easiest. So it could also be 3 unearthy skills (defender, stramina and pace, keeper as low as possibe) But apparently things are going to change so to spend too much money is not worth it. Not sure how expensive coaches are on the TL. Maybe because a change is coming, coaches will be cheaper at the moment? And it also depends of how much money you have, if it is more than enough it is easier to spend a bit more as when you need all the money to invest in your players
https://sokker.org/transferSearch/trainer/1/pg/1/stam_min/16/sort/end
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Can anyone explaine to me how the sistem of training work now?
I´m training MID, which is the best way? Any advices?
Thanks.
I´m training MID, which is the best way? Any advices?
Thanks.
I believe rrufas will be able to understand that language with no problems.
How to get started with Sokker, explained in only 6 steps.
(orange text are useful and/or important links)
The moment your registrated account is approved by an admin you have full access to all options, until then all new managers have limited access to prevent spam and guarantee fair play! You do have access to STEP 4, an important step to win matches.
STEP 1. Questions
If you don't know what to do ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS and/or read the Rules again before you spend your money! There are many national and international forums and topics on Sokker you can use to ask all your questions, and there are many helpful managers who will answer all these questions as good as they can.● Forum Newbie Questions
● Topic Sokker Questions/Answers
You can also ask a Tutor to answer your questions, or ask for a mentor on your national forum.
STEP 2. Players
First you have to sort out your players. Try to sell or fire all players older as 23 years (or even 21 years), and also sell all players that you have now left but don't have the minimal skills reqorangeuired for a position. When you sell players, put them on the tranferlist for only 1 $ (click on the name of a player for more player-info). All these players are not good enough to train anymore, and also new cheap young players on the transferlist have often (much) better skills and are good to train. The younger players are, the faster they train!Replace all these players you are selling or have fired with new young players so you have 22 players again to play in your first and second squad.
Keep these skills in mind when you sell/fire players and buy new ones:
Position = Main Skills - (Recommended Skills) - ((Useful Skills))
● GK = keeper, pace - (passing, stamina)
● DEF = defender, pace, stamina - (playmaker, technique, passing)
● MID = playmaker, passing, pace, stamina - (technique, defender) - ((striker))
● ATT = striker, technique, pace, stamina - (playmaker, passing) - ((defender))
On the players transferlist you can find many good young players to buy, 19 years and younger. Fun to do, but BE CAREFUL with your money!! And don't mind stamina as this will be your first training.
Click on the name of a player to bid:
● Transferlist young GK's (pay extra attention to keeper + pace!!)
● Transferlist young DEF's (pay extra attention to defender + pace!!)
● Transferlist young MID's (pay extra attention to playmaker + passing + pace!!)
● Transferlist young ATT's (pay extra attention to striker + technique + pace!!)
My advice, the minimal level of the skills in Italic you have to pay extra attention to (MID's may have one skill lower):
● 17 years, minimal 1x 'adequate'
● 18 years, minimal 2x 'good'
● 19 years, minimal 2x 'solid'
>> Tools
Install one or more Sokker tools for extra stats and help (do at least ones a week an update after Thursday's training to keep team data up-to-date, if needed):
● Sokker Asistente (thanks to manager Terrion)
● Sokker Organizer (thanks to manager Danny)
● Apollo (zipfile)
● SokkerViewer (thanks to manager rym3k)
Sokker apps:
● aSokker Android (thanks to manager LV23) - How to install apk file
● aSokker BlackBerry (thanks to manager LV23)
● Sokker Mobile (iOs) (thanks to manager Psc82)
A nice add-on is oSokker:
● oSokker (thanks to manager BlueZero and kryminator)
Another nice add-on is SkUnk:
● SkUnk (thanks to manager kryminator)
Also very useful for extra stats and info (install all three):
● Mozilla Firefox
● Greasemonkey
● Transfer comparison (thanks to manager cardaso)
Another useful link for extra info:
● SOKKER-MANAGER.NET (Standings, Promotion/Relegation Pairings and Transfers)
STEP 3. Training and coaches
WARNING: if you want to use 'Coach recruitment' to get a new coach, ask an experienced manager what to do!Go to the Training page and change individual training to stamina (training match order isn't important with stamina training!). Train the skill stamina for a few weeks till most players have at least 'very good' stamina. Remember, only stamina can be trained to maximum 'formidable'. During the couple of weeks it takes to train stamina you can learn more about training and training-programs (I recommend pace and/or defender training after the stamina training).
Only the players who played a match will receive training on Thursday, and only the position and played minutes of the last match counts (except for stamina training, all players will train this skill regardless if they played a match or not).
>> Head coach
In this same Training page you find your coaches. Fire all coaches you have, they are really useless. But the players need a head coach to train, so buy one new head coach from the trainers transferlist with 'unearthly' stamina. These head coaches are good to start with (these coaches are ABSOLUTELY NOT good for assistants and junior coach):
● Transferlist head coach UNEARTHLY stamina
(Parameters: Max wage: 12 500 $, Max price: 25 000 $, Stamina at least 'unearthly')
If there aren't any useful coaches on the transferlist you have to recruit one. Ask other managers what is important to know before you start recruiting.
When stamina training is done, fire the stamina head coach and buy a new head coach for the next training, and train that skill for one whole season. These are good head coaches to buy for this next training (these coaches are also ABSOLUTELY NOT good for assistants and junior coach):
● Transferlist head coach UNEARTHLY pace (RECOMMENDED)
(Parameters: Max wage: 15 000 $, Max price: 25 000 $, Pace at least 'unearthly')
● Transferlist head coach UNEARTHLY defender
(Parameters: Max wage: 15 000 $, Max price: 25 000 $, Defender at least 'unearthly')
Important to remember: the head coach ALWAYS needs 'unearthly' on the skill that you are training!!
>> Assistants
Also buy one or more new assistants from the transferlist (maximum 3) to assist your head coach, like these assistants (these coaches are ABSOLUTELY NOT good for head coach and junior coach):
● Transferlist assistants GOOD general appraisal
(Parameters: Max wage: 3 000 $, Max price: 15 000 $, Coach at least 'good')
● Transferlist assistants SOLID general appraisal
(Parameters: Max wage: 4 000 $, Max price: 20 000 $, Coach at least 'solid')
● Transferlist assistants VERY GOOD general appraisal
(Parameters: Max wage: 6 000 $, Max price: 20 000 $, Coach at least 'very good')
Important to remember: for assistants the general appraisal and low wage are important, NOT the skills!!
>> Junior coach
You don't need a junior coach yet, a junior coach will cost you too much money at the beginning! A junior coach is something for when your main team is ready. Ask other managers what is important to know before you buy/recruit a junior coach and start a junior school.
The moment you are ready for a junior coach, you can start by buying or recruiting a formidable coach. The players you can keep should all be 16 when they start in your youth school (the more weeks, the better).
● Transferlist junior coach FORMIDABLE general appraisal
(Parameters: Max wage: 11 500 $, Max price: 25 000 $, Coach at least 'formidable')
Important to remember: for junior coach the general appraisal and low wage are important, NOT the skills!!
STEP 4. Tactic and line-up
Watch these videos to learn how to create a tactic in the Tactics editor and a line-up in Match orders, including an example 532 tactic. Do not use the default tactics, these are NOT good enough!On Youtube you can find many more Sokker example tactics.
You can also watch your national team matches to learn more about tactics, and ask the NT coach for more info.
>> Tactic and line-up video
>> Tactic video
https://www.youtube.com/v/jhN7i8tRHMg&ab_channel=Cerbthehellhound
>> Line-up video
https://www.youtube.com/v/ExhjRcHFVzs&ab_channel=Cerbthehellhound
>> Example 532 tactic video
https://www.youtube.com/v/YWEY5uCkKvM
When using this 532 tactic the following info is important to know:
DEF = number 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6
MID = number 7, 8 and 9
ATT = number 10 and 11
>> Number 4 is an important player! He can be a DEF with higher pace + playmaker + passing skills. But he can also be a MID with higher pace + defender skills! You can try different things with the number 4.
More example tactics on Youtube Charles Hill channel.
STEP 5. Friendly matches
Always arrange friendly matches so the players who didn't play competition matches in the weekends will also receive training on Thursdays, and you can also use these friendly matches to try out new tactics. You need to arrange these friendly matches weekly. Go to the Friendly match page, make your own ad and/or browse ads and invite teams (not possible on Wednesdays). You can also go to the Friendly topic and ask for a friendly match, or try to join a Friendly league (only Plus managers can start new friendly leagues).STEP 6. Stadium
DO NOT rebuild your stadium yet!! First invest your money in players, head coach and assistants before you start rebuilding your stadium! The only thing you can do from start after step 2 and 3 is to buy a 1 or 2 levels higher pitch type to prevent injuries and to improve players performances. Buy nothing else in stadium.When your stadium gets sold out, first raise the ticketprices a bit and if you're still sold out after a few weeks you can start thinking about rebuilding your stadium (always rebuild the 100 Standings first and rebuild with a minimum of 1500 Benches).
EXTRA
This is my advice how to get started with Sokker, but ofcourse there are many other ways that will also work fine.If you like this tutorial, you can translate the text, maybe change some things you think that should be a bit different, and post it on your own country newbie forum (link to an easy to copy text for using this tutorial on your country newbie forum: link to document)
The next step: Tutorial 2: Getting more advanced with Sokker
(UNFORTUNATLY NOT ALL LINKS ARE WORKING ANYMORE, BUT MOST ARE)
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Training has changed completely. I won't rewrite this tutorial, so this won't be updated by me.
It would be good if someone could explain how training works currently - the manuals description doesn't seem to match the current arrangements either......
Yes, that would be good.
For now, I recommend you to read "Dev Diary 66" in the Pressroom.
Advanced training is the real training. Formation training is just consolation training with little effect.
For now, I recommend you to read "Dev Diary 66" in the Pressroom.
Advanced training is the real training. Formation training is just consolation training with little effect.
can i train my gks on goalkeeping formation gk and rest of formation to put pace and rest of players got direct pace training? or only one skill can be trained?
Each formation gets training which is assigned to.
You can train, as example:
Goalkeeping for players who played with GK posiyion
Pace for players who played with DEF position
Passing for players who played with MID
Technique for players who played with ATT
All at the same time.
You can train, as example:
Goalkeeping for players who played with GK posiyion
Pace for players who played with DEF position
Passing for players who played with MID
Technique for players who played with ATT
All at the same time.
wow. its good then :) i back to sokker with this team but only train gk for making money and didnt read new things on new sokker... but now i will play a little more serious..
1.step new trainer with lot of 16 skills on each training skills :D
tnx and best reg :)
1.step new trainer with lot of 16 skills on each training skills :D
tnx and best reg :)