Subpage under development, new version coming soon!
Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!
Man, Sviktorov is someone I respect, and he knows that. And now he knows that I get frustrated when someone calls the things I wrote ridiculous, especially on bad days, and today I had a bad day.
Maybe Sviktorov also feels offended by what I wrote, and be sure in such a case he will respond.
By the way, I have no evidence of injuries caused by tactics, but I have many clues and I would be happy if more people share their experiences to see if my clues were just coincidences or not.
PS: M. T., cette langue est-elle meilleure pour toi?
Maybe Sviktorov also feels offended by what I wrote, and be sure in such a case he will respond.
By the way, I have no evidence of injuries caused by tactics, but I have many clues and I would be happy if more people share their experiences to see if my clues were just coincidences or not.
PS: M. T., cette langue est-elle meilleure pour toi?
It's exactly that when 2 respected Users say something people will think is true .
I had injuries on safe tactics where player almost do not run whole game
Other example there are teams that play 4 5 years same tactics they have season with lots injuries and season with not single one ...
It's kinda not cool to blame the victim for the injuries ...
I had injuries on safe tactics where player almost do not run whole game
Other example there are teams that play 4 5 years same tactics they have season with lots injuries and season with not single one ...
It's kinda not cool to blame the victim for the injuries ...
Do we have a mod or admin to moderate or ban Mr. T.. I think that asking to ban or moderate tsolias for this kind of nothing is unacceptable.
I really can't understand the hate you guys are sharing in forums. Sokker is a game where we all spend our little free time to enjoy football and have interesting moments. Please, be kind to each other and instead of asking for bans, let's just be friendly :)
"Other example there are teams that play 4 5 years same tactics they have season with lots injuries and season with not single one ..."
This is a very strong argument for randomness on injurries.
However I am still not convinced, that tactics doesn't matter and I still believe that long runs can have an impact.
(long runs = ball moves 1 box - player moves more than 2 boxes)
There was a manager complaining about frequent injurries - he showed me his long-runs-tactics - I told him to change tactics - he changed - he had no more frequent injurries.
And yes, I know, that this could be a coincidence and that's why I say I would be happy if more people share their experiences to see if my clues were just coincidences or not.
"It's exactly that when 2 respected Users say something people will think is true ."
Ok, I understand. I think it's enough to respond by telling that there is also a different opinion/experience etc.. No need to over-react... peace! :)
(and yes Svik, I over-reacted too)
This is a very strong argument for randomness on injurries.
However I am still not convinced, that tactics doesn't matter and I still believe that long runs can have an impact.
(long runs = ball moves 1 box - player moves more than 2 boxes)
There was a manager complaining about frequent injurries - he showed me his long-runs-tactics - I told him to change tactics - he changed - he had no more frequent injurries.
And yes, I know, that this could be a coincidence and that's why I say I would be happy if more people share their experiences to see if my clues were just coincidences or not.
"It's exactly that when 2 respected Users say something people will think is true ."
Ok, I understand. I think it's enough to respond by telling that there is also a different opinion/experience etc.. No need to over-react... peace! :)
(and yes Svik, I over-reacted too)
Not sure if coincidence or not but when i started playing i was using those standard tactics like "Attack, 532" etc. and i had some injuries, but once i created my own i never had any injury.
"Never had any injury" is very strong saying for an user, who is playing for 2 months:)))
I hope you won't have any in the future also!
By the way yes I agree with you, it is hard to understand, why there is so much negativity in this thread :D
Cheer up guys!
I hope you won't have any in the future also!
By the way yes I agree with you, it is hard to understand, why there is so much negativity in this thread :D
Cheer up guys!
I played 2010-2013 :) what i said was not about these two months ;)
With respect :)
I want to agree with sviktorov, it really is ridiculous.
ME is not some advanced AI so that people who made it don't know how it works. Devs haven't touched the engine in a decade, that is why they don't REMEMBER so much.
I want to agree with sviktorov, it really is ridiculous.
ME is not some advanced AI so that people who made it don't know how it works. Devs haven't touched the engine in a decade, that is why they don't REMEMBER so much.
"2020-07-23 11:30:39 Raul an Tetryk
I have explanation.
So, current mechanism work like that:
Algoritm counts:
only non- arcade games
more than 60 minutes played in each one
What affects on player willingness to leave (all factors):
(1) number of minutes played - if higher, higher chance to leave
(2) Fanclub mood - when lower, than higher chance to leave
(3) player form - when lower, higher chance to leave
(4) number of transfers (past and ongoing) - when is high, lover chance to leave
So probably you can find answers according to it.
And please remember - we didnt introduced 4 weeks rule yet, so current mechanism works as always was, just arcade bug is fixed. no other changes in it. "
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Four (4!) factors just for the willingness of a player to leave and you still believe ME has no complex algorithms???
Ok, ok, ok , you are right, my words are ridiculous and prehistoric simple ME sucks.... LOL
Btw Raul is new on dev team, so he can't know every detail of the immense story called "code of sokker"- he had other bigger priorities (flash to html5)
I have explanation.
So, current mechanism work like that:
Algoritm counts:
only non- arcade games
more than 60 minutes played in each one
What affects on player willingness to leave (all factors):
(1) number of minutes played - if higher, higher chance to leave
(2) Fanclub mood - when lower, than higher chance to leave
(3) player form - when lower, higher chance to leave
(4) number of transfers (past and ongoing) - when is high, lover chance to leave
So probably you can find answers according to it.
And please remember - we didnt introduced 4 weeks rule yet, so current mechanism works as always was, just arcade bug is fixed. no other changes in it. "
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Four (4!) factors just for the willingness of a player to leave and you still believe ME has no complex algorithms???
Ok, ok, ok , you are right, my words are ridiculous and prehistoric simple ME sucks.... LOL
Btw Raul is new on dev team, so he can't know every detail of the immense story called "code of sokker"- he had other bigger priorities (flash to html5)
I am not trying to say that ME is some simple piece of software, but it is not some enigma, to say, "Who knows what is going on in there."
Injuries come and go like a flu. I had period of no injuries, and also periods of epidemics, all while playing the same tactic. It is obviously random.
Even if a player being tired increases the possibility of injury, and there is not even a hint about that in the rules, than that would be really stupid. It would be ridiculous to make it so that you are killing your team with your tactics and there is no clue about that in the rules.
If that really exists in the game, then it needs to be addresses ASAP, it shouldn't be something that we need to discover.
Injuries need to be addresses anyway, it's the No1 source of bad experience in the game.
Injuries come and go like a flu. I had period of no injuries, and also periods of epidemics, all while playing the same tactic. It is obviously random.
Even if a player being tired increases the possibility of injury, and there is not even a hint about that in the rules, than that would be really stupid. It would be ridiculous to make it so that you are killing your team with your tactics and there is no clue about that in the rules.
If that really exists in the game, then it needs to be addresses ASAP, it shouldn't be something that we need to discover.
Injuries need to be addresses anyway, it's the No1 source of bad experience in the game.
I feel mainly the ''stupid'' injuries need to be deleted, like the walk with ball...Injury! Or the pass ball...Injury!
On a bad pitch I can understand a light injury from running, but on Angel Grass in the 16th minute a run injury is ridiculous.
Certainly if it occurs after 5 meters...
On a bad pitch I can understand a light injury from running, but on Angel Grass in the 16th minute a run injury is ridiculous.
Certainly if it occurs after 5 meters...
Hi @tsolias i respect your efforts in finding source of problems but some times things are more obvious
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/63355/ID_topic/3438693/pg/218
extract of my question and the response from @Rual strange to come from my mouth but i believe what representative of dev team believes :)
sviktorov до slavista
@Raul i have an observation about injuries that if a def plays with MID orders or MID with def orders or striker with def orders the chance of injuries are higher is that a correct statement ?
If that is true i assume will be match harder to train 2 midfielders on opposite skills can you provide info about injuries what affects them and are they pure random?
Raul до sviktorov
i think (but im not sure) its completly random - i'd also train one mid on def possition currently and nothing bad happens.
With so large database there is always an option that you will see some correlation with different factors on yourr team level, but in most cases its just a coincidence, as long as its not a global rule easy to find in most of teams.
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/63355/ID_topic/3438693/pg/218
extract of my question and the response from @Rual strange to come from my mouth but i believe what representative of dev team believes :)
sviktorov до slavista
@Raul i have an observation about injuries that if a def plays with MID orders or MID with def orders or striker with def orders the chance of injuries are higher is that a correct statement ?
If that is true i assume will be match harder to train 2 midfielders on opposite skills can you provide info about injuries what affects them and are they pure random?
Raul до sviktorov
i think (but im not sure) its completly random - i'd also train one mid on def possition currently and nothing bad happens.
With so large database there is always an option that you will see some correlation with different factors on yourr team level, but in most cases its just a coincidence, as long as its not a global rule easy to find in most of teams.
So, injuries are all random...
However, sometimes luck plays against us, even if you have divine grass lol.
@dtox: agree. Some injuries are simply ridiculous!!! Walking with the ball ó receiving a pass is stupid. Also, still believe there must be some kind of punishment (yellow or red card) if a player injury another one...
However, sometimes luck plays against us, even if you have divine grass lol.
@dtox: agree. Some injuries are simply ridiculous!!! Walking with the ball ó receiving a pass is stupid. Also, still believe there must be some kind of punishment (yellow or red card) if a player injury another one...