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You just told him that he does not speak Spanish :-).
"no hables" would be correct.
"no hables" would be correct.
Do you know that older player is, trains slower? You can buy 27-36 player for 500k, but guaranteed you will make at least 50% loss over 2 seasons! And training players older as 27+ in advanced training slot makes no sense if player isn't NT player!
From age 28 they get prone to randomly lose skills!
Ok 13 it is, I can't get clear talent graph for junior with 14!
@cometer how many did you have over 4 years? I had 3 nice juniors for over a year, and think I'm lucky one!
Before, played around 10 years and had 18y divine, 2 19 magical and 2 brilliant 18y, and made better sales with one 16y and 2 17y excellent/formidable!
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From age 28 they get prone to randomly lose skills!
Ok 13 it is, I can't get clear talent graph for junior with 14!
@cometer how many did you have over 4 years? I had 3 nice juniors for over a year, and think I'm lucky one!
Before, played around 10 years and had 18y divine, 2 19 magical and 2 brilliant 18y, and made better sales with one 16y and 2 17y excellent/formidable!
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Yes, I read "from 11". Thanks!
But I really don't understand desire to compete right away and spending more money on players salaries as coaches!
Coaches can quick pay off when you can train players faster.
Buying old players at very beginning is just bad investment - obviously can't cover their salary!
And keeping them, he stays with bad coaches, and losing money in training too...
That is what I am saying!
I'm training cheap players, noone noticed, too, but I had another approach: I invested all money in Coaches, sold only to close gap and save season, and it is paying off already! Those players are now U21 material after 2-3 seasons of training.
I made to build stadium too.
All my decisions to try to combine few old players were bad - lost money and they didn't brought expected result impact!
Good coaches (not top) made this players above average:
striker - bought 8k, sold 1.76M
midfielder - bought 43k, sold 1.11M
striker - Bought 45k, sold 1.41M
defender - bought 6k, sold 881k
trained my own junior - sold 1.8M
21y midfielder - bought 4k, now U21
20y defender - bought 13k, possibly U21
21y midfielder - bought 10k, possibly U21
19y defender - bought 133k, now U21
20y striker - bought 40k, now U21
My own junior - best 18y striker
17y striker bought 939k - now 2nd best 17y striker
My own junior - in top 5-6 18y defender
If they lost percentage of training trough ys or training, I could assume they are not talented (18y striker talent estimation from 14 coach was 4.67 only - now in training 3.5), or train them without additional ups, they would stay average players, and get 40-50% of transfer money maybe...
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But I really don't understand desire to compete right away and spending more money on players salaries as coaches!
Coaches can quick pay off when you can train players faster.
Buying old players at very beginning is just bad investment - obviously can't cover their salary!
And keeping them, he stays with bad coaches, and losing money in training too...
That is what I am saying!
I'm training cheap players, noone noticed, too, but I had another approach: I invested all money in Coaches, sold only to close gap and save season, and it is paying off already! Those players are now U21 material after 2-3 seasons of training.
I made to build stadium too.
All my decisions to try to combine few old players were bad - lost money and they didn't brought expected result impact!
Good coaches (not top) made this players above average:
striker - bought 8k, sold 1.76M
midfielder - bought 43k, sold 1.11M
striker - Bought 45k, sold 1.41M
defender - bought 6k, sold 881k
trained my own junior - sold 1.8M
21y midfielder - bought 4k, now U21
20y defender - bought 13k, possibly U21
21y midfielder - bought 10k, possibly U21
19y defender - bought 133k, now U21
20y striker - bought 40k, now U21
My own junior - best 18y striker
17y striker bought 939k - now 2nd best 17y striker
My own junior - in top 5-6 18y defender
If they lost percentage of training trough ys or training, I could assume they are not talented (18y striker talent estimation from 14 coach was 4.67 only - now in training 3.5), or train them without additional ups, they would stay average players, and get 40-50% of transfer money maybe...
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I pay less attention to exit skill level, I’m more interested in skill distribution and talent (which I guess is where I do care about higher exit skill levels) for the age they’re pulled. I have data for that if required but that’s a bit time consuming for me to extract.
So players like Robbie Crampton (AUS NT striker) pulled as solid 16yo, Callum Greenwood (close to AUS NT striker) pulled as solid 16yo or something like that, Ace Scuderi and Christian Renaud (AUS NT midfielders) , Joel Ponting (close to AUS NT squad as GK who played last match), then there’s others who could have been better then they ended out if trained properly Carl D’Alberto, Rory Groom and there’s more coming but I won’t list them. Then there’s those that are just my first Xi starting squad who won’t be NT standard but sufficient for my purposes currently. None of these were pulled with anything better than incredible youth coach and most were likely pulled when I had a formidable one. Just comes back to what you keep and what ones you sack. I’ve had a dry run in recent seasons since I’ve had the incredible so make of that what you want :). Main point is as a beginner you don’t need brilliant as a bare minimum. You can do very well with formidable if you can’t afford higher.
So players like Robbie Crampton (AUS NT striker) pulled as solid 16yo, Callum Greenwood (close to AUS NT striker) pulled as solid 16yo or something like that, Ace Scuderi and Christian Renaud (AUS NT midfielders) , Joel Ponting (close to AUS NT squad as GK who played last match), then there’s others who could have been better then they ended out if trained properly Carl D’Alberto, Rory Groom and there’s more coming but I won’t list them. Then there’s those that are just my first Xi starting squad who won’t be NT standard but sufficient for my purposes currently. None of these were pulled with anything better than incredible youth coach and most were likely pulled when I had a formidable one. Just comes back to what you keep and what ones you sack. I’ve had a dry run in recent seasons since I’ve had the incredible so make of that what you want :). Main point is as a beginner you don’t need brilliant as a bare minimum. You can do very well with formidable if you can’t afford higher.
Yeah that’s fair, but even some of these were 17-18yo pulled too so whilst none would likely make the bigger nations NTs they’re still more than useful club players. Point was that when you refer to bare minimum you can get by with a formidable youth coach. If you’re asking bare minimum for elite players that might be different but you’re also far less likely to get many of those. Obviously if you can afford better then that should be considered but at the beginning you’re unlikely to be able to afford everything you ideally want.
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Exactly! That's what I said: he should keep 16yo, less weeks, if he doesn't have good junior trainer! If he tries to make some profit training 18y players with 11 junior trainer - you can forget about it! Especially if skill distribution is lousy! Croatia had 18y brilliant junior with tragic pace! ;)
"And there could be more if trained properly!"
That's the point! Better coaches make better players, and he could use that as leverage, training Paraguayan players with not best possible skill distribution!
"And there could be more if trained properly!"
That's the point! Better coaches make better players, and he could use that as leverage, training Paraguayan players with not best possible skill distribution!
I advised PacoDT to change salary ratio: better 160k for coaches as 160k for old players. He don't have even 15k stadium. Calculation is simple, he's gonna be bankrupt any time soon! If he invested this money in Coaches and training, he could have "mortgage" trough players value increase.