Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

That's good to know! ;)

Thanks for the reply. I didnt need to mention that this calculation probably are not accurate

Please wait until next season expectations with opinion. Calculations will change, so evaluate already a new version.

But i think it's pretty obvious that if you are in 4th, fighting for promotion, even if the calculations says you are strong for that division, is not the same as 12th for any supporter.

Same with "Fight for any points" it is possible to have a great success (100%) beeing 9th in league.

It's a waste of time for me to even discuss that.

So don't waste it.

4th is not same as 12th... period

Please wait until next season expectations with opinion. Calculations will change, so evaluate already a new version.

Ok Thanks.

Same with "Fight for any points" it is possible to have a great success (100%) beeing 9th in league.

It was not my point. I can understand that if you are weak, 9th can be sucess. But 4th could never be the same level of failure of 12th. And I'm not mention that maybe you are 4th but close to 2th, because that can make it more complex. It needs to be simple. So it must consider only the position. Still makes no sense to me.

So don't waste it.

You don't need to be rude. I thought it was preety obvious. I'm thinking in terms of real soccer supporters. But it seems that it's not.
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4th is not same as 12th... period

Yes. In my opinion, It could never be considered the same level of failure. In any case.

But 4th could never be the same level of failure of 12th

Same like 9th is not the same success as beeing 1st. But still it is 100% for both, 1st and 9th.

So it must consider only the position

Mostly, yes, in some cases not only.

You don't need to be rude. I thought it was preety obvious. I'm thinking in terms of real soccer supporters. But it seems that it's not.

I'm not rude. I'm helping with everything I can. I'm ready to discuss. It was you who didn't have to write "It's a waste of time for me to even discuss that" - that was not fair.

Every game has it's own rules. Not always it looks like in real life. Not always it is even possible.
Here fulfillment of expectations is based on league position. You need to get over it.
Now you are 2 points from 2nd place, but it is calculated after every league game, so after next round you can be 2nd and having better fulfillment level.
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When open to debate changes, one should not simply "get over it"

I suggest when 1st is expectations that 4th could be 30%, and then fall by 10% untill 0% is meet at 7th.... to make less extreme cases

And since it will probably be last time they can/should spend time on expectations, it would be good to have it as perfect as possible...


Another question... do anyone know if the changed pages that is only in english For me and others Are due to lazy linguists or its not yet translateable

You need to get over it

Good

It is not possible to simply change it like you would wish. Rebuild whole system won't happen. There are 5 levels of fulfillment and without rebuilding the system it is not possible to reach % levels between those 5. So yes, sometimes you have to get over it. I would be really happy if they would start thinking over youths academy than rebuilding expectations system just after it was improved.

But... Wait!
What is really important? Fulfillment of last/current season or fans mood? Mood right?
So... Beeing 4th or 12th is not the same!
In both cases you have 0% of fulfillment level. But beeing 4th you would have higher level of recent matches rating than beeing 12th! Right?
And recent matches rating is 30% part of the mood.

So it is like you expect when you look at mood, not only at fulfillment of current season.

Disagree. But who cares.

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I like you a lot geston, you do HUGE work for sokker

But get over it, is similar to saying stop crying or almost piss off... its rather offensive language.... just an advice m8

That was not my intension. Maybe it sounds like that cause of some kind weird translation.
I was just trying to say - it is like it is, for now we have to live with that.
That's all.

:)

Another question... do anyone know if the changed pages that is only in english For me and others Are due to linguists or its not yet translateable