Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

Also. Think of new users and how many attendance they would get against the top teams in A-league when they promote. In beginning its a bonus, its first later on when problem expanding in attendance is there. But again, training means bigger bucks.

I guess league winner should play first match against lowest rated team in league, so that can be again on 1st place from start. I mean it doesnt matter if you beat last year 2nd placed.

Rating of the current season:
below expectations
Rating of the last season:
above expectations
Level of satisfaction with recent matches:
91%
Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations:
70%
Raspoloženje navijača:
76% - Vaši navijači su prezadovoljni rezultatima svoga kluba

Only me i’m disappointed from the updates the last 4-5 years? I’m playing this game since 2009 and all these changes, i can’t see any good from these.
1) When the teams were only 8 and before the weekly financial changes with the same budget, I was earning about 4.2m-4.5m annually from my home tickets. Now my annually earnings are the same because of the fans. When you don’t win a game the attendance decreases significantly even if you have are having a great season.
2) I have a magical junior trainer with 50k salary and i get a talent after 1 and a half year.
3) the player’s salaries had increased again significantly and combined with coaches salaries by expenses only for salaries every week are more than 400k.
4) My weekly financial statement before all these changes was always positive and the max weekly loss i had was 100k for some weeks now it’s 300k loss every week whatever i do.
My point is that the expenses are enormous with salaries, the members are paying less, the earning of tickets are affected too much week by week and not in general as should it be, I can not get benefited from juniors even if i spend money on coaches so how can i be competitive? At least if those who can afford a very good coach could benefit from the yourh team, Could balance the whole situation but as it is right now is extremely difficult to
Compete with so high losses every week.
One more thing that changed was again about young players. While a player was getting older after 16 weeks now its after 13 weeks and this affect the pop ups because now is even harder to train a young player and get at least 3 pop ups every season. So if i can get money from stadium because of some bad results and not appreciated the whole status or even the season results, if i can not be benefited from my youth team, if it is too difficult to train young players and on opposite side the expenses are much higher than before, what’s the f..,.. point of all these changes??

Only me i’m disappointed from the updates the last 4-5 years? I’m playing this game since 2009 and all these changes, i can’t see any good from these.
1) When the teams were only 8 and before the weekly financial changes with the same budget, I was earning about 4.2m-4.5m annually from my home tickets. Now my annually earnings are the same because of the fans. When you don’t win a game the attendance decreases significantly even if you have are having a great season.
2) I have a magical junior trainer with 50k salary and i get a talent after 1 and a half year.
3) the player’s salaries had increased again significantly and combined with coaches salaries by expenses only for salaries every week are more than 400k.
4) My weekly financial statement before all these changes was always positive and the max weekly loss i had was 100k for some weeks now it’s 300k loss every week whatever i do.
My point is that the expenses are enormous with salaries, the members are paying less, the earning of tickets are affected too much week by week and not in general as should it be, I can not get benefited from juniors even if i spend money on coaches so how can i be competitive? At least if those who can afford a very good coach could benefit from the yourh team, Could balance the whole situation but as it is right now is extremely difficult to
Compete with so high losses every week.
One more thing that changed was again about young players. While a player was getting older after 16 weeks now its after 13 weeks and this affect the pop ups because now is even harder to train a young player and get at least 3 pop ups every season. So if i can get money from stadium because of some bad results and not appreciated the whole status or even the season results, if i can not be benefited from my youth team, if it is too difficult to train young players and on opposite side the expenses are much higher than before, what’s the f..,.. point of all these changes??

I won so many leagues and cups, participating in league of champions so many times and the fans if i place in 2-3 position the tickets are significantly decreased. I’m sorry but the whole formula thing is not working so well…

Yeah, schedule never changes, does it :)

The good news is things will smooth out after the first couple weeks. I finished second the season before last, and my fans weren't happy for like 3-4 weeks. Then I rattled off like 10 in a row and all settled in.

We have had this discussion and I have proven with figures, just how much you make with sponsorship etc as a guaranteed income.

The absolute best in the game at training and playing the market, doubles that. That means even for those who are active on the TM, a majority of their weekly income still comes in the form of sponsorship. I didn't even take in to consideration gate receipts for this, so they will be a lot higher throughout the season too, due to there being a more consistent, high level of fanclub members in the league.

I'm sorry you hate to see it, but those in small countries hit a ceiling that is lower than those in big nations.

It wouldn't matter if I rated 40, or 90, my sponsorship and fanclub members are basically stationary due to league prestige ie the fanclub members of others in my league.

How you don't see this and don't see this is a big issue is beyond me.

So trying to tell someone "oh you'd only be div 5 in polska" is not the flex you think it is, it's a different game
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Because you get less money, my trainee is very different to a larger nation trainee. My trainee is worse than would be considered worthy of training in larger nations.

Years ago I did a retrospective study on new teams in small nations and those in larger ones, and proved how much quicker you go up in a larger country, and depending where the country is in the cycle, it's because either there are large existing teams in the lowest league pulling up the league prestige, or an easy promotion puts you in to a league full of older teams, thus pulling you up quicker.

Yes new teams going up to A-League do get a boost, if they make it, but it pull down all the others. In a large country, it does the same but that top team promotes and someone from the higher league drops down to help balance the prestige loss.

This is why going to 12 teams hurt small nations, they needed it to go to 6


But in the end, there is still no point in making more money just for the same of it. Again, if I was rating in the 80s or let's be the best in the game, the 90s, I still wouldn't be able to get the sponsorship, fanclub members or attendance that div 1 poland/Italy/Romania etc get and that's because it is not based on strength of teams, it is based on average fanclub members in the league.

So the independent variable is fanclub members. The Dependent variable is Sponsorship/Gate takings.
When the Independent variable cannot be altered by the individual playing, that is a problem within the game because it gives no incentive to get better.
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Please then, give me the exact numbers from sponsors that you get, with [money=6]amount[ /money]

I'm pretty sure I'm not getting much more, while I'm making a lot more money every season by training.

Australian top team Team Moose has a transfer balance of negative -150 000 000 $. Where does he get that money to spend? Obviously from tickets and sponsors, nowhere else.

I'm sorry you hate to see it, but those in small countries hit a ceiling that is lower than those in big nations.

WHAT ceiling?
People from small countries HAVE BEEN and ARE successful. They were playing for years for 80+ ratings. It's not about how big a country is. Look at England for example. For years they had only one strong team, others were much, much worse. Why? They had same opportunities, yet only one team knew what it was doing.

There were strong teams from Moldova [20 users], even now Murlocs play for 77.

As Adaca wrote you, you can train much more easily in your country and thus make much more money.
There was a team from Latvija [9 users], xineon/Football Warriors, also very, very strong over the years, played for 80+.

It wouldn't matter if I rated 40, or 90, my sponsorship and fanclub members are basically stationary due to league prestige ie the fanclub members of others in my league.

Again, you shouldn't rely on that money to improve, but on training and transfers. That's how you improve.
Why do you think that people go to lower leagues in Poland? Because they can train there and make money. They don't care about sponsors and tickets, even though they get much less than you in 6th league.

Problem is that most teams are not active enough on the market / training and just expect to get money for free. It doesn't work that way.

In Poland you can't afford to train anyone at 1st or 2nd league, unless you leave the cup at start of season and just train players for 85%. Which neither of those makes sense. When you play in highest leagues in Poland the worth of your team goes DOWN with every season.

When you play in a small/weak country you can easily play at top and train at the same time for 96%. You can make money while still wining against teams playing for 40-60, easily.

Because you get less money, my trainee is very different to a larger nation trainee. My trainee is worse than would be considered worthy of training in larger nations.

Total bullshit, I already shown you how much I made on a player bought for 23 000 $.

That's a very bad excuse, low fee trainees are the best ones to make good money on.
I buy trainees for very low amounts because they have the least risk and best return on investment.

Facts are that you simply invest close to nothing into trainees because you don't bother with it, you just spend all money on your first team.
You've spent literally nothing on your trainees, just training whatever you get from youth school. And then you are surprised, that you don't have enough money. Seriously?

You play in a very inactive league, you could easily dominate it while training and making money. Instead you just spend all your money on first team and train whatever you get for free.

You follow the worst possible cycle of team in this game. Get money from sponsors/tickets, spend it on a player trained by someone else, get money from ticekts/sponsors again, sell the previous players with a huge loss because he got older, buy another player trained by someone else with the ticket/sponsors money.

That's how teams in 4th/5th league play and they don't go up because they have no plan, strategy and never invest, never improve. They just stay on same level for years, dependent on the basic money from tickets and sponsors.
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Your money spent on 1st team: 57 500 000 $
Your money spent on trainees: 0 $

That's the issue, not the sponsors.

And you really don't need to buy youths for 20m euro to make money, it's exactly the opposite.
I have over 250m euro and I don't even pay more than 1.5m euro for a trainee.

I buy young players for 500k-1m euro mostly. Often much less.

This player was bought for 23 000 $ and sold for 3 000 000 $

Ambrozie Manolescu, wiek: 18
klub: The Evil`s, kraj: România
wartość : 452 000 zł
wynagrodzenie: 4 700 zł
nadboska [18] forma
celująca [10] dyscyplina taktyczna
wzrost: 176 cm, waga: 69.3 kg, BMI: 22.37

niedostateczna [2] kondycja tragiczny [0] bramkarz
dostateczna [6] szybkość dostateczny [6] obrońca
dostateczna [6] technika celujący [10] rozgrywający
dostateczne [6] podania mierny [3] strzelec

This player I'm still training, paid 62 500 $ for him, I'm sure I will receive much, much more after 1 season of training.

Gaspard Lambert, age: 17
club: The Evil`s, country: France
value : 179 000 zł
wage: 2 700 zł
outstanding [12] form
good [7] tactical discipline
height: 176 cm, weight: 74 kg, BMI: 23.89

tragic [0] stamina tragic [0] keeper
adequate [6] pace poor [3] defender
adequate [6] technique unsatisfactory [2] playmaker
adequate [6] passing unsatisfactory [2] striker

You're saying that you can afford 1st team for 57 500 000 $ but you can't afford to buy trainees for 0.1% of that...?
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please add page number options at the top of the transfer list,
this: "« 2 »"

its only at the bottom now, and is very annoying in certain situations.... lets say you revisit, and need to go to page 7, that means you gonna have to scroll all the way down 6 times...