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Subject: Vote to save our junior schools : a letter to the Devs.
The lowest 3 or 4 skills should be deleted completely. They never made and still don't make any sence. Ofcourse if these are deleted for everyone, the value of players won't change. The usability of players does, a bit more..
So I send our topic on this forum directly to Raul, I will invite him here maybe he will write us something, if he wrote me priv then maybe he will talk to us here. I stress maybe yes, maybe no.
say to him that they need to put the training the way it was before, slowing it down was the worst decision ever!
Sure good idea.
I could have written a book for all the ideas I read about improving juniors. I only made one letter, sorry.
I don't know how its computing but the it seems basically a random toss from 0 to 6(?) by skills. So if devs have to complete this : "1) Set a much higher general minimum starting level! (currently tragic (0)" It could be setting a random from 2 to 6 / skills. In other word, no more tragic(0) skills and of course, no more general tragic level.
I could have written a book for all the ideas I read about improving juniors. I only made one letter, sorry.
I don't know how its computing but the it seems basically a random toss from 0 to 6(?) by skills. So if devs have to complete this : "1) Set a much higher general minimum starting level! (currently tragic (0)" It could be setting a random from 2 to 6 / skills. In other word, no more tragic(0) skills and of course, no more general tragic level.
Everyone can come up with ideas how to change it so that youths come out better/have higher average level. It doesn't matter though.
What matters od what the owners want to achieve with changes. And looking at their changes to training and their proposed idea for youth school - they don't want what we want.
What matters od what the owners want to achieve with changes. And looking at their changes to training and their proposed idea for youth school - they don't want what we want.
In general you are right but if a lot of users want this there might be a chance they change their mind so we have to believe . Keep going juttt and let's stick to the topic ...
@all.
We are aware, that current youth system is far away from ideal.
For sure we will work on youth reform.
But, i think we see a bit different problems in YS right now.
As i see, your main problem is - low level of players, what means low level of senior players in the future.
Its half true - schools are working good enough, to produce large number of multidevine players, so there a plenty of good players in the game. All where produced by YS, so there is no to low level of youth in the game.
Our goal is to make game more competetive and interesting - to make it so on the level of match engine and tactics, there shouldnt be ANY multidevine players.
We cannot upgrade YS to much.
But, lets focus on solutions.
In our opinion current real problems with YS are:
1. randomness - there is no way to manage your school - its just a pure luck and lottery.
2. probability distribution in the game - there is the same chance to get poor younior as medium or best. Same with talent etc - it should be normalized - there should be higher chance to get some medium level players, with medium talent, and any extreame drawings should be limited, and probably also connected with teams (to make sure, that every team will get similar number of talents etc.).
3. lack of options with YS management - we dont know what players do we have now, there is no chance to check their progress, etc.
For that problems we will try to find solutions and prepare some serious update of youth shool.
But - also important thing - we need to follow our priorities, so that kind of reform need to wait - its large topic and lot of work is required, for now we need to end current bug fixing priority - we developed lot of new pages, some of them are still have problems and we cannot move forward while so many elements are not working.
Some crucial bugs right now:
1. login page seems to be working while page is not responding (during morning updates or server issues) - lot of people block their IP or restart passwords becouse of that. We are developing some solution to display information while page is down.
2. notifications problem
3. training reports still need some fixes (for example full information about player training history in reports, incl possition and traning type)
4. languages - still lot of problems with some parts of translations, linguist cant do their job properly.
We are aware, that current youth system is far away from ideal.
For sure we will work on youth reform.
But, i think we see a bit different problems in YS right now.
As i see, your main problem is - low level of players, what means low level of senior players in the future.
Its half true - schools are working good enough, to produce large number of multidevine players, so there a plenty of good players in the game. All where produced by YS, so there is no to low level of youth in the game.
Our goal is to make game more competetive and interesting - to make it so on the level of match engine and tactics, there shouldnt be ANY multidevine players.
We cannot upgrade YS to much.
But, lets focus on solutions.
In our opinion current real problems with YS are:
1. randomness - there is no way to manage your school - its just a pure luck and lottery.
2. probability distribution in the game - there is the same chance to get poor younior as medium or best. Same with talent etc - it should be normalized - there should be higher chance to get some medium level players, with medium talent, and any extreame drawings should be limited, and probably also connected with teams (to make sure, that every team will get similar number of talents etc.).
3. lack of options with YS management - we dont know what players do we have now, there is no chance to check their progress, etc.
For that problems we will try to find solutions and prepare some serious update of youth shool.
But - also important thing - we need to follow our priorities, so that kind of reform need to wait - its large topic and lot of work is required, for now we need to end current bug fixing priority - we developed lot of new pages, some of them are still have problems and we cannot move forward while so many elements are not working.
Some crucial bugs right now:
1. login page seems to be working while page is not responding (during morning updates or server issues) - lot of people block their IP or restart passwords becouse of that. We are developing some solution to display information while page is down.
2. notifications problem
3. training reports still need some fixes (for example full information about player training history in reports, incl possition and traning type)
4. languages - still lot of problems with some parts of translations, linguist cant do their job properly.
Slowed training and injuries should be in that list me with crap players as well we can't wait another year you totally fucked up the game ..
Same with talent etc - it should be normalized - there should be higher chance to get some medium level players, with medium talent, and any extreme drawings should be limited
what do you mean by "medium talent"? you know that nobody trains a player with talent worse than 4 (4 weeks/up in school). So I hope you won't reduce the number of players with talent better than 4 in future.
btw, I like luck and lottery
what do you mean by "medium talent"? you know that nobody trains a player with talent worse than 4 (4 weeks/up in school). So I hope you won't reduce the number of players with talent better than 4 in future.
btw, I like luck and lottery
Heavily slowed-down workouts without any user warning, combined with a 3-week reduction of seasons is the stupidest possible solution.
Now this game is going to die by itself.
Now this game is going to die by itself.
2. probability distribution in the game - there is the same chance to get poor younior as medium or best. Same with talent etc - it should be normalized - there should be higher chance to get some medium level players, with medium talent, and any extreame drawings should be limited, and probably also connected with teams (to make sure, that every team will get similar number of talents etc.).
No, it's not "the same chance to get poor younior as medium or best". If you have 3 different parameters with uniform distribution (age, talent, skill distribution) then to get top junior you need to get good roll on all of these parameters, which makes it similar to normal distribution.
It's like dice rolls, when you use one die you have 1/6 for each roll, but if you use more dice and look at the distribution of sums it will look like a normal distribution.
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No, it's not "the same chance to get poor younior as medium or best". If you have 3 different parameters with uniform distribution (age, talent, skill distribution) then to get top junior you need to get good roll on all of these parameters, which makes it similar to normal distribution.
It's like dice rolls, when you use one die you have 1/6 for each roll, but if you use more dice and look at the distribution of sums it will look like a normal distribution.
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So goal is to get as many 19y formidable (I know it may be too much) junior with talent between 4.5-5.0 ?
Love that!!
Love that!!