Subject: [NT] Elections

Last season, several accounts with the same IP appeared, and there was fraud in the Portuguese elections.

Several of us made complaints to the administration, these accounts were banned (which proves the fraud), but the Polish who won the elections because of this fraud... remained victorious in the elections. He was Polish...

It doesn't matter if he was successful or not, it doesn't matter if Portugal chose well or badly... what matters is that the Portuguese have the right to vote, and choose what they want for themselves, instead of being imposed on a Polish.

I am creating this post to alert the entire Sokker community about the existence of fraud in the elections. EVERYONE pay attention if fake accounts are being created in your countries, and report it to the administration, so that the accounts are banned before the end of the elections, and that there are no more Poles placed in teams, without this being the will of the community. From the example above, we already know that the administration will not remove the Poles from there.

Thank you, and good luck to everyone.

Hi.

The election that season was rigged. There is no doubt about that.
I personally reported about 50 accounts and most of them were banned and deleted.

At the same time, I am sure that the winner of that season's election was also a victim. He was not the one behind the fraud. It was a prank (fraud) by someone I met on the Portugal forum posting from multiple accounts. He wrote freely and colloquially in Portuguese (rather without a translator). Someone also mentioned that there was an unfriendly user from Venezuela with a problem? One can guess.

In my opinion, the election should have been repeated then, which is what I requested of the (non-Polish) admins. As you know, the election was not repeated.
And the most important thing is the will of the community. Your community. Your will was unfortunately not heard.

You were not heard, not because the selector happened to be Polish.
At least three selectors in other countries were banned last season. They were not Polish, but the elections were not repeated there either. There could have been a vacancy for Poles, right?
Why wasn't the election repeated? Because no one cares, no matter where someone is from, the owners of the game don't care at all. Also the fact that in several representations it is impossible to join the elections at all. Nobody is doing anything about it.

Meanwhile, in Portugal, a new user registered yesterday. This is another suspicious account which I have already reported. He himself naipsed that:
"because murky has blocked votes for new users".
I don't know how true this is, but if they have actually blocked such a possibility for new users, it's probably a good thing. At least this much.

You know very well that I fight along with you and help as much as I can.
I wouldn't want it to be the Polish flag that raises bad emotions in you.

Regards.

Could be a simple quick fix without burning much dev ressources : accounts younger than x seasons should not be able to vote. Done,

Off course the main problem will remain without other solutions, but it’s better than nothing.
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You are a good person. And I also think that it's not the fault of the Polish boy who won the elections.

Regarding the Poles who are part of the administration, the story is quite different.

If they didn't correct the elections... it was because they didn't want to.

If, for example, the Netherlands U21, a while ago, qualified for the World Cup but they put Sweden U21 there... instead of the team that had actually qualified... it was because they wanted to.

These are the most obvious and clear points. Then there are many other points that fools think is ok.

But if we call administrators useless or lazy... we are the ones accused of lack of respect. We are the ones who are wrong.

Of course, the administration could repeat these elections, because long ago this was done in some cases.

Now they don't do it because there is no pressure from above. They have no obligation to do so. They think that if they don't have to, why make life difficult for themselves. But you can't generalise, because there are some people on the staff who do help.

And yes, this is not fair to us, the users.

The situation with the Netherlands is different and that's a completely different topic. It is solely the fault of the developers and the malfunctioning algorithms. Only the developers can improve the algorithm, but they haven't done that to date.

I will continue to try to do what I have done so far.

admins can't repeat elections, only dev's can

Nice to know. I saw in elections history that it happend many times. I was thinking you (admins) have a "tools" for that in your system. Sorry for that.

But the administrators are more in contact with the DEVs, and can talk to them, when there are problems in the game.

which makes them almost unable to repeat because I reported two such cases to devs recently (singapore and peru iirc) and not even response was given back so I gave up and didnt even tried again when I saw banned nt coaches

The Camerun electoral page is blocked.....

How yes no

Clown

There was no need to repeat the elections... it was enough to remove the votes for the accounts that were banned, and see who had won the elections in the end.

These links are from users, some of them old, who logged in yesterday, all with the same IP. I think they are trying to fraud the USA elections. That's why the accounts have to be banned before the end of the elections. Some administrator to do something. I found these accounts, but there may be more.

https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1911705
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1911774
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1912010
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1912183
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914643
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914991
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1915756
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1917696
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1918436
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1912145
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914026
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1915028
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1915804
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1918197
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1913304
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914201
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914996
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1915192
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1917481
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1915727
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1917634
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1918248
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1918828
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914662
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1917295
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1918309
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1911950
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1913556
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914159
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1914750
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1917302
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1917977
https://sokker.org/user/ID_user/1918310

If you read the USA forum outside your thread, you would know that all these logins are Lord Legolas's and everything has already been clarified with the admins. After Sokker's mistake of not accepting teams, he assigned all waiting teams automatically, regardless of when the application was submitted. Some applications were submitted even a year ago, so most of these teams probably won't even log in anymore.

Cameroon out, and Ozbekiston, but what will be about Ghana? I would like to organize the African Cup with much more African teams, but nobody elected at Ghana.

But Ozbekiston got an NT Coach, I don't understand it...
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