Subject: »Future NT stars (U21) NO ADS

And my Striker :]

Rick Considine, wiek: 20, wzrost: 186 cm
wartość: 1 969 000 zł, wynagrodzenie: 31 100 zł
klub: BobaS, kraj: New Zealand
forma [7](-3) dobry, dyscyplina taktyczna [13] niesamowity

kondycja [5] przeciętny, bramkarz [2] niedostateczny
szybkość [15] magiczny, obrońca [10] celujący
technika [10](+1) celujący, rozgrywający [6] dostateczny
podania [8] solidny, strzelec [11] świetny

My player is very close to reaching 39 in sum.

Tytus Majkut, age: 20
club: Dream Theater F.C, country: Polska
value : 2 250 000 R$
wage: 24 600 R$
magical [15] form
incredible [13] tactical discipline
height: 169 cm, weight: 71.4 kg, BMI: 25
bookings:
weak [4] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
outstanding [12] pace formidable [11] defender
incredible [13] technique poor [3] playmaker
poor [3] passing outstanding [12] striker

+2 Pace and 3GT
+3 Striker and 2 GT
+8GT Tech

I have similar: almost 13 in pace

Mitsos Pallis, wiek: 20, wzrost: 179 cm
wartość: 2 148 000 zł, wynagrodzenie: 22 600 zł
klub: CWKS Pakoma, kraj: Hellas
forma [18] nadboski, dyscyplina taktyczna [8](+2) solidny

kondycja [10] celujący, bramkarz [0] tragiczny
szybkość [12] znakomity, obrońca [5] przeciętny
technika [11] świetny, rozgrywający [7] dobry
podania [5] przeciętny, strzelec [13] niesamowity

My guy needs technique...

Sebastian Białokozowicz , vârsta: 20
club: United Arad , country: Polska
value : 1,803,000 lei
salary: 27,200 lei
solid [8] forma
brilliant [14] tactical discipline
height: 184 cm, weight: 76.4 kg, BMI: 22.57
records:
adequate [6] resistance hopeless [1] keeper
incredible [13] speed environment [5] defense
very good [9] technique weak [4] construction
good [7] passes brilliant [14] attack

20 gts to excellent is 3 trainings basically, which is good but not that great.
How many weeks did it take to 17 pace?

well as I've said it was a 100% general pop [also 20gts is imo more like 2.5 advanced than 3]

what I mean by this is that the previous pop was also from general - so he has no "extra" from previous pop like in pops after advanced training. he needed only 13 general trainings to pop to very good striker - but he popped to solid after advanced training, it often makes a huge difference.

remember as well that striker is the 2nd slowest training, only after pace. slower than especially playmaker/passing.
in technique for 100% general pop [pop to solid also from general] to very good he needed only 16 general trainings, which is less than 2 advanced trainings.

as for pace, his pace talent was: 3 to formidable, 4 to incredible, 5 to magical, 6 to divine
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1st time training gk, 3 to brilliant keeper (3 to 13 and 12 as well) :)

Ernests Celmiņš, age: 19

club: Football Warriors, country: Latvija
value : 842 250 €
wage: 5 425 €
very good [9] form
excellent [10] tactical discipline
height: 174 cm, weight: 74.4 kg, BMI: 24.57


good [7] stamina brilliant [14] keeper
very good [9] pace average [5] defender
average [5] technique weak [4] playmaker
very good [9] passing average [5] striker
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That goalkeeper is very talented xineon....came out at 18 with magical!

Borkos, I understqnd what you mean, a full pop with GTs.
Still I think 20 gts is around 3 and not 2.5 trainings. So our different opinions come from there. Nevertheless, súper good talent :) what I don't like is that that player precisely, made me see that the YS is all a lie and a big shit. Come on, a player that showed a 4.5 talent now it's a top one haha
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It always depends on how long a player is in YS... but yes, even after 20+ weeks the talent average from YS can be "fake", let alone when we talk about 16-17yo players that were in YS for around 6-10 weeks

It's a matter of huge and constant changes - one week the player goes +1 and the average can show 3.1, another week the player drops by -2 and boom, suddenly he "is" 3.6 etc.

I have this player:

> Youth Talent Calculator

Now it shows me 3.33 talent
Last week he was 3.22
If next Thursday he goes back down one level - he will be 3.75

So depending on which of the 3 weeks he would come out, I'd think he has a talent between 3.22 and 3.75 - so a huge difference

23 weeks in youth school and his talent is still a mystery
That's why I think that YS talent shows SOMETHING, but it's very far from actually defining the real level of talent...

Leon Harasimczuk, Yaş: 21

Kulüp: Zero Tolerance SK, Ülke: Polska
değeri : 956 800 TL
Maaş: 10 320 TL
süpertanrısal [18] form
olağanüstü [13] taktik disiplin
Boy: 166 cm, Ağırlık: 57.8 kg, VKI: 20.98

sakatlık: (10 gün)

mükemmel [11] kondisyon felaket [0] kalecilik
muhteşem [12] hız vasat [5] defans
mükemmel [11] teknik muhteşem [12] oyunkuruculuk
muhteşem [12] pas vasat [5] golcülük


he played his first match in polish u21 and few days later boom, 21 days injury.

his tech and pace was on the edge to pop up before injury. I could be pasting 13 pace and 12 tech right now. thank you engine.
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Now it shows me 3.33 talent
Last week he was 3.22
If next Thursday he goes back down one level - he will be 3.75

So depending on which of the 3 weeks he would come out, I'd think he has a talent between 3.22 and 3.75 - so a huge difference

23 weeks in youth school and his talent is still a mystery
That's why I think that YS talent shows SOMETHING, but it's very far from actually defining the real level of talent...

In my opinion algorithm used in this tool is flawed, changes week to week can produce way too high talent changes.

Linear regression for this player shows 3.38 last week and 3.43 this week; if he goes back to 9 next week it will be 3.63, if he stays at 10 it will be 3.51, if he goes to 11 it will be 3.39. Much lower range.

The algorithm is one thing, but the sudden changes after weeks of being ys [with unearthly coach] should not be possible/so often

For example - I have a player who at week [22] went +3 and then week [23] he went -3

then week [28] he went +2, week [29] went -1, week [30] +2, week [31] -1

It is ridiculous, it shows that even after around 30 weeks the youth coach still doesn't really see the actual level...

> Youth Talent Calculator

You only started playing in youth league this season, so it may explain why this chart looks bad. It's never this bad for my youths that play regularly in games. I think it's logical - if the coach only sees youths in trainings then he can evaluate them badly, even if he is an unearthly coach.

Also, it may look bad, but it's almost always +-1 level from the "adjusted progress", so it's not that far off from the real level.

That's why I started playing in youth league... but I might back out because it seriously affects the pitch quality

I'm at 80%, playing YL today at Home, tomorrow I have a league game at Home - it will be wrecked...

It's only this bad if you have home matches on Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday... which usually happens once a season, and even then it's not that bad, the chance that a ~20% worse pitch quality will produce an additional injury is quite small.

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Any chances for U21?

Carsten De Schrijver, age: 20, height: 185 cm
value: 328 250 €, wage: 3 725 €
club: Rummi Olympic, country: België
form [10] excellent, tactical discipline [11] formidable

stamina [7] good, keeper [1] hopeless
pace [7] good, defender [11] formidable
technique [6] adequate, playmaker [13] incredible
passing [11] formidable, striker [3] poor