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Also, in Spain we have a "special" love with hamilton since the year when alonso was on McLaren... Do you remember illogical penalties to Alonso? Now, Hamilton is warned and Alonso is penalized, by doing the same or worst things. The only thing I liked that year was when Hamilton did his worst race on Brasil. Now, when Hamilton does something bad (if he crashes, or if he got passed) I'm really happy :) I think I hate Hamilton and, also, it's one of the reasons which Hamilton sucks.
The penalty for Alonso was correct, but Hamilton passed Vettel in pits, he was driving dangerous in the pits ( next to Vettel, but Hamilton came back after Vettel, so he should let Vettel get away first, he cut the track when going to pits, and he was very aggressive which resulted in Webber getting off the track. That are 4 offends that can be penalized, and guess how much penalties he actually got? Yes, none of them. Last race in Malaysia, he swapped on the track so Petrov couldn't pas him, he didn't get a penalty for that either ...
I haven´t been watching F1 very much but emm.. from mclaren days I remember when Alonso F´d up Hamiltons qualification in some race by purposely blocking the pitlane(I think that was the most pathetic thing I´ve ever seen in F1) and was that Alonso who told out somekind of Mclaren secret which brought them really nasty penalties?
McLaren and Hamilton are just a bunch of liars, that's it. And of course, Hamilton is the most irresponsible driver I've ever seen. He's a great driver, but he should show some respect to his colleagues and to the sport.
yes, I don't say alonso's penalty from today, because today's correct. I said that in the past, Alonso got too many penalties which Hamilton didn't get, doing the same or worst things :)
It wasn't purposely, McLaren didn't give to Alonso the permission to exit from the pitlane and he passed to finishline 0'3 sec. before time arrived at 0 sec.
And Alonso wasn't who said that, I think it was one employee from a photocopying, which photocopied ferrari's secrets. The drivers (Alonso and Hamilton) didn't know nothing about that. But they cooperated with FIA.
edited: now I have just read one thing about qualifying. On 2007, Alonso and Hamilton were doing shifts on qualifying: one did one lap more in one qualifying and the other did the same in another qualifying, in other GP. In that GP (Hungary '07) was Alonso who have to do one lap more than Hamilton, but the second one didn't accepted to the team and was all the qualifying doing that he wanted.
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And Alonso wasn't who said that, I think it was one employee from a photocopying, which photocopied ferrari's secrets. The drivers (Alonso and Hamilton) didn't know nothing about that. But they cooperated with FIA.
edited: now I have just read one thing about qualifying. On 2007, Alonso and Hamilton were doing shifts on qualifying: one did one lap more in one qualifying and the other did the same in another qualifying, in other GP. In that GP (Hungary '07) was Alonso who have to do one lap more than Hamilton, but the second one didn't accepted to the team and was all the qualifying doing that he wanted.
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Spygate probably. Yeah, Hamilton and Alonso had nothing to do with that. That were just the liars I was referring to ;-) 100 million dollars fine and exclusion of the Constructors' Championship for 2007.
1) He didnt pass Vettel at all, Vettel was ahead when they went out.
2) they were both let out at near enough the same time and once they were side by side it was safer to stay there than cut back across behind him. Vettel pushing across into Hamilton didnt help though. Reprimand for both was fair decision.
3) Silly thing to do, but there was noone near him so it wasnt dangerous, not a serious offence really, especially when you consider the numerous other cars that dived into the pits a bit erraticly.
4) Yes, Hamilton did go and push Webber off, but only because he had no other option because Vettel was on the inside of him pushing him across again.
5) If you watch the replay, Hamilton moved across before Petrov each time, Petrov could have gone on in a straight line if he wanted.
Dont think anyone could argue he rode his luck, or argued against a grid drop next race, but he didnt do anything majorly wrong.
Button was solid throughout and it was an exciting race for once.
2) they were both let out at near enough the same time and once they were side by side it was safer to stay there than cut back across behind him. Vettel pushing across into Hamilton didnt help though. Reprimand for both was fair decision.
3) Silly thing to do, but there was noone near him so it wasnt dangerous, not a serious offence really, especially when you consider the numerous other cars that dived into the pits a bit erraticly.
4) Yes, Hamilton did go and push Webber off, but only because he had no other option because Vettel was on the inside of him pushing him across again.
5) If you watch the replay, Hamilton moved across before Petrov each time, Petrov could have gone on in a straight line if he wanted.
Dont think anyone could argue he rode his luck, or argued against a grid drop next race, but he didnt do anything majorly wrong.
Button was solid throughout and it was an exciting race for once.
1) He didnt pass Vettel at all, Vettel was ahead when they went out.
He did before pit-stops, Vettel gave the throttle just a little longer, so he was first over the white line (= pit lane entry), and Hamilton took over before that corner in the pitlane, so yeah, he did pass Vettel.
2) they were both let out at near enough the same time and once they were side by side it was safer to stay there than cut back across behind him. Vettel pushing across into Hamilton didnt help though. Reprimand for both was fair decision.
Vettel was let out a little earlier, and then you have to let him pass, just like Alonso or Massa ( don't know which Ferrari-driver anymore ) had to do in one of the first races, and lost 5 or 6 seconds because the pit lane was full.
3) Silly thing to do, but there was noone near him so it wasnt dangerous, not a serious offence really, especially when you consider the numerous other cars that dived into the pits a bit erraticly.
It is extremely silly, and it is forbidden by the FIA. So yes, it was a serious offence. That he didn't take advantage really doesn't matter.
4) Yes, Hamilton did go and push Webber off, but only because he had no other option because Vettel was on the inside of him pushing him across again.
Yes, there you are right, I didn't ask for a penalty for that. It was catastrophic that restart, because Button ( yes, again McLaren ) was driving ridiculously slow. That should be forbidden to drive that slow.
5) If you watch the replay, Hamilton moved across before Petrov each time, Petrov could have gone on in a straight line if he wanted.
And again: doesn't matter. FIA and GPDA (Grand Prix Drivers' Association) have said it is illegal, you can swap on the straight one time, just once. And he did like 4 or 5 times. So yeah, that is a penalty.
Button was solid indeed, great drive. And the race was spectacular and very exciting of course :-)
He did before pit-stops, Vettel gave the throttle just a little longer, so he was first over the white line (= pit lane entry), and Hamilton took over before that corner in the pitlane, so yeah, he did pass Vettel.
2) they were both let out at near enough the same time and once they were side by side it was safer to stay there than cut back across behind him. Vettel pushing across into Hamilton didnt help though. Reprimand for both was fair decision.
Vettel was let out a little earlier, and then you have to let him pass, just like Alonso or Massa ( don't know which Ferrari-driver anymore ) had to do in one of the first races, and lost 5 or 6 seconds because the pit lane was full.
3) Silly thing to do, but there was noone near him so it wasnt dangerous, not a serious offence really, especially when you consider the numerous other cars that dived into the pits a bit erraticly.
It is extremely silly, and it is forbidden by the FIA. So yes, it was a serious offence. That he didn't take advantage really doesn't matter.
4) Yes, Hamilton did go and push Webber off, but only because he had no other option because Vettel was on the inside of him pushing him across again.
Yes, there you are right, I didn't ask for a penalty for that. It was catastrophic that restart, because Button ( yes, again McLaren ) was driving ridiculously slow. That should be forbidden to drive that slow.
5) If you watch the replay, Hamilton moved across before Petrov each time, Petrov could have gone on in a straight line if he wanted.
And again: doesn't matter. FIA and GPDA (Grand Prix Drivers' Association) have said it is illegal, you can swap on the straight one time, just once. And he did like 4 or 5 times. So yeah, that is a penalty.
Button was solid indeed, great drive. And the race was spectacular and very exciting of course :-)
And yes, I'm a Ferrari fan, but that doesn't matter. FIA is just not consequent in their penalties. For instance last year, Massa was driver to aggressively in the pits ( a bit the same as Hamilton ), and got fined for a couple of thousand dollars. In one of the next races ( I think German GP ) Webber ( who won the race ) did the same, and he got a drive through penalty ... FIA and the race commission ( don't know how this is exactly said in English, it's Charlie Whiting and his gang :p ) just always give less severe penalties to Ferrari and McLaren, and especially to Lewis Hamilton.
meh, just making it up to us for the years we had to suffer of schumacher getting away with murder ;)
http://www.youtube.com/v/mlJWwuV9eBw&feature=related :D
http://www.youtube.com/v/mlJWwuV9eBw&feature=related :D
That is the saddest moment since I watch F1, seriously, and I've been watching F1 since 1998 season. Massa deserved to win that tittle, Hamilton was just ... arrrgh, I'm still not over it.
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