Everyone was using doping at some time. I'm pretty sure Dumoulin does everything by the rules. Has nothing to do with patriotic.

"your country is well known for cheating by doping"

... everybody cheats... in every professional sport.. some get caught, some not, that's the only difference..

and some prefer doping by cheating. they will become managers

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Quintana : 41.35min for the clim the last time.
Froome : 39.58min today

The best Simoni : 39.03 min.


Such a dumb comparison

UHm have you seen the climb of quintana and now ?
This year they went full full gas from the bottom ,
Quintana was just chilling there and went with 1 K to go.
he didn't went 100% because it wasn't for the win and he was already sure of his pink jersey.

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or Froome needs a miracle ;)


Yeh, Froome and his miracles ;)

short miracle , froome is done for this giro
Only Yates and Dumoulin left , Yates is in pole position to win this giro , but i hope dumoulin gets it

I'm not a fan to Pinot.. ( rather Nibali, Sagan, Alaphilippe)
if terminated 2 and 3 it's because the others, Froome Contador etc, give up the tour..

Poels was forced to slow down otherwise he was letting everyone down.. if after he stop ok, but no.. finish after Pinot.
Dumoulin are more power yes, but the high moutain is not good for him..look Rod Dennis.. The new Rasmussen ;)
Yates world champion on track and win in moutain.. stop ( and i like her brother Adam ^^ )
Froome is horrible during this Giro, and today, with big stage, he flies away :D

French are not better.. Jalabert, Fignon etc are doping, and your country is well known for cheating by doping .. not so patriotic ;)

You do know that Poels his best mountain is in fact the zoncolan , in 2014 he finished with quintana etc. in the group. Poels = how steeper how better he becomes.
Only thing i don't like about poels is that one week he can't get over a bridge and the other week he is just absolutly amazing.

Pinot his peak (resistance/ endurance) is over, he was amazing the first week , but his peak was to early (Tour of alps he was already in top form).

Froome wasn't flying away , Yates would could won this also if he had the balls to go with Froome from the beginning ;)

I did know that Yates would be good this giro but thought that he would crack the last week , and the win would be for dumoulin who has much more power and body.

Aru is really bad this giro
Pinot peaked to early (but his time trial is much better than pozzovivo )
Carapaz is to young
Lopez peaked to late
Froome isn't in his top form
pozzovivo , formolo , bilbao in the form of his life

1. Yates or dumoulin
2 Yates or dumoulin
3 Pinot or pozzovivo
4. Pinot or pozzovivo
5. Froome
6. Lopez
7. Carapaz
8; Bennett
9. Bilbabo
10. Dennis or konrad

;)

Pinot his peak (resistance/ endurance) is over, he was amazing the first week , but his peak was to early (Tour of alps he was already in top form).

Pinot become the season in Tour des Alpes.. It's impossible what you say. This season, Giro + Tour for him and the guy will put his peak of shape for the tour of the Alps.. LOL


Maybe I have a little abuse on Dumoulin and Dutch, yesterday it was more logical and human.
But sorry, your country is small and there is a long list of doped sportsmen.. stop hypocrisy. if you seach doping you go to Belgium and Nederland.. It's not a legend ^^
After, maybe Dumoulin is big champion much better that i think and i I am wrong.
But Poels isn't a star in moutain, in hilly yes, and look her clim.. It's also crazy that Froome and Yates, and 2 are positif in 2016 and 2017..

But that also confirms what I said, Carapaz, Lopes, Pinot and Pozzovivo are better in moutain (but race science, it rubs the void lol) it's logical with their quality. ( but Dumoulin will be in the front with ITT).

In any case, Yates climbs well for an asthmatic.. Ah ah

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Pinot become the season in Tour des Alpes.. It's impossible what you say. This season, Giro + Tour for him and the guy will put his peak of shape for the tour of the Alps.. LOL
Have you seen him racing at the tour of alps ? He was stunning there ! he mispeaked it can happen or the others peaked better; Do you even watch any cycling or do you just look at the results ?


Maybe I have a little abuse on Dumoulin and Dutch, yesterday it was more logical and human.
But sorry, your country is small and there is a long list of doped sportsmen.. stop hypocrisy. if you seach doping you go to Belgium and Nederland.. It's not a legend ^^

What has history to do with the cyclist who race now ?
Yeah ofcourse whe had a lot of doping in Belgium because Cycling is a belgian sport.
But that has nothing to do with the riders now, This young generation now ( Wellens , Benoot, Campenaerts,... ) i'm pretty sure they are riding clean ;)


But Poels isn't a star in moutain, in hilly yes, and look her clim..
UHm wtf are you saying ? He is a world climber ,just look up some results even before Sky
(F.E. Vuelta 2011)


It's also crazy that Froome and Yates, and 2 are positif in 2016 and 2017..

People don't understand that asthma products don't effect the perfomance like EPO , Clenturberol , CERA ,...

That is the reason why it's called SPECIFIED doping , Yates actually did nothing wrong , The doctor just forgot the document. (if the document was ok , there was no doping) Froome had to much in his blood where it's already been proven that dehydration can lead to such a positive test and the test are 30% of the time is positive even if they take the right amount of the salbutamol.


But that also confirms what I said, Carapaz, Lopes, Pinot and Pozzovivo are better in moutain (but race science, it rubs the void lol) it's logical with their quality. ( but Dumoulin will be in the front with ITT).
I cycle myself , from my friends i'm the best climber for sure but my friends have more endurance etc. I'm always pretty good the first hills , but when the rides end they will get me because they have more endurance like me. so that's why it's possible that dumoulin is can beat them in the last climb .

In any case, Yates climbs well for an asthmatic.. Ah ah
I know some cyclist personally (Pro-continental) who also become asthmatic because they really putting there lungs open in polluted air for several hours.
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everyone's opinion, I don't want to take the head ^^

I tested the product for asthma before a football game (even several lol), and frankly you will not make you better, but you never wipe! It's really effective.. And football, physic isn't the more importante factor, in cycling yes.
If many guys take that it's not for nothing..
( and i know asthma is more common with polution and dust, but numbers are way too big for everyone to be really sick..)

AUT is organized doping..
Either stop the Pro sport, or you don't take a product, or you are allowed for everyone.. other is inequitable.

That is also my meaning no more TUE'S ;)
but they don't do anything illegal so,

Will be very difficult for Dumoulin to win again after yesterday.

so that's why it's possible that dumoulin is can beat them in the last climb .

Dumoulin is trained to deliver a high wattage for a longer time, more than any climb specialist can do, but he is not strong in fast-slow-fast jumps. Is probably also some endurance but what he can do is 1 pace for a longer time.

Now that everyone is looking at him, and Yates attacks him on what Dumoulin is not that good, Yates can beat him kinda easily in steep climbs.

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First time Yates looses time. Maybe it is getting interesting. When it comes to power, Dumoulin can and will beat Yates with these kind of finishes.

Unfortunately, the last stages will all be Yates specialty, although stage 20 there is a small possibility.

Both 2 stages, 19 and 20, get 5 stars, the most difficult.
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Stage 19

Stage 20

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If they ride the stage very hard from , it's gonna be difficult for Yates but they have to ride at dumoulin limit the whole stage, not wait until the hill begins.

also curious if Carapaz could do anything against lopez who is riding better and better

Everything is normal.. Ah ah