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Subject: [squad] England

2014-05-27 22:45:24
I think morsey is trying to do his best...
Unfortunately this is not the best system Greg could choose, but he wanted this one.
So take it as a game and nothing more, also if there will be surely something strange
2014-05-27 23:02:54
we all know that his trying to do his best and i respect all his work, but if i were him i would try not to waste my hard work for nothing;) he will spend hours writing posts about the tournament and nobody is gonna enjoy it because of this stupid skills & tactic thing;) so what is the point of that?;)


(edited)
2014-05-28 09:22:29
England have very bad squad... England never had such a bad composition

sorry my english...
(edited)
2014-05-29 17:35:06
I'll generate and post here England team with the spreadsheet cesc85 and I developed, based on FIFA 14 skills.

Please evaluate and suggest what skills you think should be increased.
2014-05-29 17:57:53
"Gary Cahill
incredible [13] in pace - unearthly [16] in defender
formidable [11] in technique - excellent [10] in playmaker
excellent [10] in passing - excellent [10] in striker
"
"Phil Jones
incredible [13] in pace - unearthly [16] in defender
formidable [11] in technique - excellent [10] in playmaker
incredible [13] in passing - excellent [10] in striker
"
"Chris Smalling
brilliant [14] in pace - unearthly [16] in defender
formidable [11] in technique - very good [9] in playmaker
formidable [11] in passing - average [5] in striker
"
"Phil Jagielka
outstanding [12] in pace - divine [17] in defender
excellent [10] in technique - good [7] in playmaker
outstanding [12] in passing - solid [8] in striker
"
"Leighton Baines
brilliant [14] in pace - divine [17] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - incredible [13] in playmaker
magical [15] in passing - brilliant [14] in striker
"
"Luke Shaw
magical [15] in pace - brilliant [14] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - excellent [10] in playmaker
outstanding [12] in passing - good [7] in striker
"
"Glen Johnson
magical [15] in pace - unearthly [16] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - outstanding [12] in playmaker
incredible [13] in passing - formidable [11] in striker
"
"Jack Wilshere
brilliant [14] in pace - incredible [13] in defender
magical [15] in technique - magical [15] in playmaker
magical [15] in passing - outstanding [12] in striker
"
"Jordan Henderson
brilliant [14] in pace - incredible [13] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - incredible [13] in playmaker
brilliant [14] in passing - brilliant [14] in striker
"
"Steven Gerrard
incredible [13] in pace - magical [15] in defender
magical [15] in technique - magical [15] in playmaker
divine [17] in passing - divine [17] in striker
"
"Frank Lampard
formidable [11] in pace - outstanding [12] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - magical [15] in playmaker
magical [15] in passing - magical [15] in striker
"
"James Milner
incredible [13] in pace - incredible [13] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - magical [15] in playmaker
magical [15] in passing - brilliant [14] in striker
"
"Adam Lallana
magical [15] in pace - formidable [11] in defender
unearthly [16] in technique - magical [15] in playmaker
unearthly [16] in passing - brilliant [14] in striker
"
"Ross Barkley
brilliant [14] in pace - formidable [11] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - incredible [13] in playmaker
incredible [13] in passing - outstanding [12] in striker
"
"Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
unearthly [16] in pace - very good [9] in defender
magical [15] in technique - incredible [13] in playmaker
incredible [13] in passing - incredible [13] in striker
"
"Raheem Sterling
divine [17] in pace - formidable [11] in defender
unearthly [16] in technique - incredible [13] in playmaker
brilliant [14] in passing - brilliant [14] in striker
"
"Wayne Rooney
magical [15] in pace - formidable [11] in defender
unearthly [16] in technique - magical [15] in playmaker
unearthly [16] in passing - divine [17] in striker
"
"Daniel Sturridge
divine [17] in pace - very good [9] in defender
unearthly [16] in technique - incredible [13] in playmaker
incredible [13] in passing - unearthly [16] in striker
"
"Danny Welbeck
magical [15] in pace - solid [8] in defender
brilliant [14] in technique - outstanding [12] in playmaker
incredible [13] in passing - incredible [13] in striker
"
"Rickie Lambert
formidable [11] in pace - very good [9] in defender
outstanding [12] in technique - incredible [13] in playmaker
excellent [10] in passing - brilliant [14] in striker
"

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2014-05-29 18:06:25
Raheem sterling is tragic in playmaker, I guess something went wrong :-)

And gerrard divine scoring, seems a little high to me :)
(edited)
2014-05-29 18:24:15
My bad, I fixed Raheem Sterling =)

About Gerrard, that is FIFA 14 fault :P
He is passing 92 and shooting 92.
2014-05-29 22:43:40
Gerrard has an excellent shooting, I agree with his "divine" status.
2014-05-30 02:14:08
I have LFC tattoo, but gerrard is only 16 striker... but 16 playmaker
Raheem Sterling is 18 pace
alex oxlade chamberlain 17
cahill 14 but only 10 tech
phil jones 14 pace, 12 tech, 11 pass
baines 15 pace, 11 playmaker
Glen johnson 16 pace, 13 tech
wilshere 16 pass, 13 striker
henderson 15 pace (otherwise you have to play almost all players with 9 stamina and him 11)
milner 14 pace, 14 pm
ross barkley almost +1 everywhere
rooney 16 pace
sturridge 11 pm
wellbeck 16 pace
rickie lambert + 1 everywhere
2014-05-30 02:14:42
but almost nailed, much better way to do skills
2014-05-30 10:07:22
England Squad

Leighton Baines, age 29
, sum(105,00)
value: 2 734 000 €
wage: 29 575 €
superdivine form
height: 170 cm, weight: 74 kg,
BMI: 25.61

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace unearthly (16) defender
unearthly (16) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
magical (15) passing incredible (13) striker


Ross Barkley, age 20
, sum(104,00)
value: 2 132 750 €
wage: 22 325 €
superdivine form
height: 189 cm, weight: 76 kg,
BMI: 21.28

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace incredible (13) defender
magical (15) technique magical (15) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing brilliant (14) striker


Gary Cahill, age 28
, sum(104,00)
value: 2 509 250 €
wage: 29 075 €
magical form
height: 193 cm, weight: 86 kg,
BMI: 23.09

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace divine (17) defender
unearthly (16) technique incredible (13) playmaker
magical (15) passing outstanding (12) striker


Fraser Forster, age 26
, sum(74,00)
value: 2 344 500 €
wage: 27 125 €
brilliant form
height: 180 cm, weight: 76 kg,
BMI: 23.46

formidable (11) stamina magical (15) keeper
brilliant (14) pace average (5) defender
average (5) technique average (5) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing average (5) striker


Ben Foster, age 31
, sum(75,00)
value: 2 381 500 €
wage: 25 200 €
superdivine form
height: 193 cm, weight: 90 kg,
BMI: 24.16

formidable (11) stamina brilliant (14) keeper
magical (15) pace average (5) defender
average (5) technique average (5) playmaker
magical (15) passing average (5) striker


Steven Gerrard, age 33
, sum(102,00)
value: 2 049 750 €
wage: 23 125 €
magical form
height: 183 cm, weight: 83 kg,
BMI: 24.78

formidable (11) stamina weak (4) keeper
brilliant (14) pace brilliant (14) defender
magical (15) technique magical (15) playmaker
magical (15) passing brilliant (14) striker


Joe Hart, age 27
, sum(79,00)
value: 3 420 500 €
wage: 41 550 €
brilliant form
height: 196 cm, weight: 89 kg,
BMI: 23.17

formidable (11) stamina divine (17) keeper
unearthly (16) pace average (5) defender
average (5) technique average (5) playmaker
magical (15) passing average (5) striker


Jordan Henderson, age 23
, sum(105,00)
value: 2 604 500 €
wage: 27 850 €
superdivine form
height: 182 cm, weight: 67 kg,
BMI: 20.23

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
unearthly (16) pace incredible (13) defender
magical (15) technique unearthly (16) playmaker
magical (15) passing brilliant (14) striker


Phil Jagielka, age 31
, sum(99,00)
value: 1 772 250 €
wage: 20 375 €
brilliant form
height: 183 cm, weight: 83 kg,
BMI: 24.78

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
brilliant (14) pace magical (15) defender
brilliant (14) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing outstanding (12) striker


Glen Johnson, age 29
, sum(102,00)
value: 2 338 750 €
wage: 24 850 €
superdivine form
height: 182 cm, weight: 70 kg,
BMI: 21.13

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace magical (15) defender
magical (15) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
magical (15) passing outstanding (12) striker


Phil Jones, age 22
, sum(107,00)
value: 2 243 500 €
wage: 26 675 €
brilliant form
height: 180 cm, weight: 71 kg,
BMI: 21.91

formidable (11) stamina adequate (6) keeper
divine (17) pace magical (15) defender
magical (15) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing incredible (13) striker


Adam Lallana, age 26
, sum(101,00)
value: 1 980 250 €
wage: 22 450 €
brilliant form
height: 172 cm, weight: 73 kg,
BMI: 24.68

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace incredible (13) defender
brilliant (14) technique magical (15) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing brilliant (14) striker


Rickie Lambert, age 32
, sum(98,00)
value: 1 855 500 €
wage: 19 125 €
superdivine form
height: 187 cm, weight: 77 kg,
BMI: 22.02

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
brilliant (14) pace outstanding (12) defender
brilliant (14) technique incredible (13) playmaker
magical (15) passing brilliant (14) striker


Frank Lampard, age 35
, sum(95,00)
value: 1 431 250 €
wage: 15 375 €
magical form
height: 184 cm, weight: 88 kg,
BMI: 25.99

formidable (11) stamina weak (4) keeper
incredible (13) pace outstanding (12) defender
brilliant (14) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing incredible (13) striker


James Milner, age 28
, sum(107,00)
value: 2 705 750 €
wage: 30 150 €
unearthly form
height: 175 cm, weight: 70 kg,
BMI: 22.86

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace brilliant (14) defender
magical (15) technique unearthly (16) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing magical (15) striker


Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, age 20
, sum(106,00)
value: 2 516 500 €
wage: 27 050 €
superdivine form
height: 180 cm, weight: 70 kg,
BMI: 21.6

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
divine (17) pace incredible (13) defender
magical (15) technique unearthly (16) playmaker
magical (15) passing brilliant (14) striker


Test Player, age 25
, sum(100,00)
value: 1 764 250 €
wage: 17 925 €
superdivine form
height: 180 cm, weight: 75 kg,
BMI: 23.15

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
brilliant (14) pace brilliant (14) defender
brilliant (14) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing brilliant (14) striker


Wayne Rooney, age 28
, sum(110,00)
value: 3 444 000 €
wage: 40 075 €
unearthly form
height: 176 cm, weight: 79 kg,
BMI: 25.5

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace brilliant (14) defender
unearthly (16) technique unearthly (16) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing divine (17) striker


Luke Shaw, age 18
, sum(102,00)
value: 2 241 250 €
wage: 26 525 €
brilliant form
height: 185 cm, weight: 75 kg,
BMI: 21.91

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
unearthly (16) pace magical (15) defender
magical (15) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing outstanding (12) striker


Chris Smalling, age 24
, sum(103,00)
value: 2 517 750 €
wage: 28 425 €
unearthly form
height: 192 cm, weight: 81 kg,
BMI: 21.97

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
magical (15) pace divine (17) defender
unearthly (16) technique outstanding (12) playmaker
magical (15) passing outstanding (12) striker


Raheem Sterling, age 19
, sum(104,00)
value: 2 119 750 €
wage: 24 325 €
brilliant form
height: 170 cm, weight: 69 kg,
BMI: 23.88

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
divine (17) pace incredible (13) defender
magical (15) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing magical (15) striker


Daniel Sturridge, age 24
, sum(105,00)
value: 2 508 750 €
wage: 27 675 €
divine form
height: 188 cm, weight: 76 kg,
BMI: 21.5

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
divine (17) pace formidable (11) defender
magical (15) technique brilliant (14) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing unearthly (16) striker


Danny Welbeck, age 23
, sum(104,00)
value: 2 450 250 €
wage: 27 200 €
unearthly form
height: 185 cm, weight: 72 kg,
BMI: 21.04

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
unearthly (16) pace outstanding (12) defender
brilliant (14) technique magical (15) playmaker
magical (15) passing unearthly (16) striker


Jack Wilshere, age 22
, sum(105,00)
value: 2 966 000 €
wage: 33 725 €
unearthly form
height: 172 cm, weight: 65 kg,
BMI: 21.97

formidable (11) stamina average (5) keeper
unearthly (16) pace outstanding (12) defender
brilliant (14) technique divine (17) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing brilliant (14) striker
2014-05-30 10:16:12
Milner better than Gerrard

#sokker
2014-05-30 11:13:41
dude fifa 14 database may be a bit of help, but not to make the skills based on it... first of all fifa 14 overall system if pretty bad, and some attributes are far from reality... for example Falcao has 93 finishing, Cristiano has only 92 and Messi has 97, etc... then a player who is 85 overall as a RW position can became 86 or 84 if you change his position to a RM, that may be his position in reality... and the overall is based almost entirely on the last season form, which is not very accurate... then most of the olders player are underrated and most of the 21-25 years players are overrated... i'm post later how i see the skills of the best players in every position (in my opinion)
2014-05-30 11:19:55
Ok, georgel_mgm.

What is your suggestion? Just say "this way is bad" does not help.
Give us a better solution or at least respond my question:

What (available) database is better than FIFA 14? Can you provide us a website with it?
2014-05-30 12:41:08
haven't search pesdatabase but i guess is more accurate then fifa because it is more realistic games, but they are just games... probably there's no such accurate sites with all the stats and with value atributtes for each player without paying... but still i think you can find the basic statistics for every player on the UCL site for thoose teams... then most of the big and decent clubs from Europe have a more complex statistics for each player on official sites, but without atributtes and so far, and most league have off sites with basic stats too... espnfc, transfermakt also has accurate basic stats for each player, and there's others... for example http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/staff/players/messi/stats... it's pretty good to make an ideea of a basic player skills especially if u don't know him that well, but finally you must see him playing a few matches on top level to be less subjective and more realistic, basing just on stats it's not good either... i found 2 sites like whoscored.com... www.footballdatabase.eu and www.goal.com, but there not so much better then yours... for example to make an ideea he's the same player on thoose 3 sites :
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/3859/
http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.joueurs.wayne.rooney.1284.en.html
http://www.goal.com/en/people/england/1681/wayne-rooney?ICID=PP_1681
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2014-05-30 12:54:23
haven't search pesdatabase but i guess is more accurate then fifa because it is more realistic games

lol

PES has a terrible player database

a completely average player from Legia, Mikita, who is too weak to play for Legia has higher skill than Lukasz Piszczek from Borussia...:D

Furman 85 and Zyro 84...both better than Blaszczykowski, almost whole team of Newcastle United, and on the level of Liverpool's first team

PES is a joke:)