Subject: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

Why do you need 12 national cup rounds? That would mean 4096 teams, no country has that many and most have waaaay fewer.

good point. Another point, for (small) teams cups are quickly one less challenge during a season.

As I said, the National cup system would remain the same as today. Number of rounds in National cup depends on how many users country has. It can be between 5 rounds in the smallest countries like Ozbekistan and 13 rounds in Poland.

To deal with the problem that some of the teams are quickly out of the National cup, I came up with an idea of International League where everyone would play for a whole season.


*The 11 rounds and final of National cup are in the plan just for an illustration
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@all, well, we try to respond as many of you as we can, but there is so many things to be addressed, so we simply sometimes can miss something - sorry for that.

@Achmid - As kryminator said - for now, you have 3 options with the same time frame, but major question is how many games per week should we play, and what competitions should we intruduce. That are most important answers for us. Number of weeks is next part - we are open for discussion about it, but first, lets fix overall system.

Of course numer of weeks will affect traning, injuries, promotions and all of that - but we will test and adjust all of it to make it work good. So i wont be so focused on season lenght, rather try to decide about number of games per week and types of competitions.

Your quick idea is better than all the devs idea that were offered to us. I like the idea of an international league, although would prefer it if the "international" part was within FIFA separations (ie AFC, Africa, Europe, North and central America, south America).

A 14 week season could work if the playoff occurs in the first week of the next season (and the national cup is pushed down as there are a few weeks at the end of the season which are free)

Good proposal, good flexibility with season length, great idea about international leagues rather than cup

But I think 12-14 weeks there is not much difference.

At the beginning I misunderstood proposals (sorry), but now I understand and I agree.

Why not 12 weeks? in real life the teams also play some games during the weekday. Indeed, it's only to move 2-3 matches and
the season would still be almost 3 real months. I think it would perfect.

If you want number of competitions and number of matches per week, make those the proposals.

The problem with what you have given is the organisation is all out.

So you want the answers to the first questions.


Remove youth league and make it 3 senior games per week.
International league, national league and national cup is good.

There are those answers. But if the only way you can fit that in, is with the proposed timetables than no change is better, because it is too over the place

+1

2 games per week are perfect
yes!

Because the proposed competitions don't fit in with 12 weeks.


I'm not against 12 seasons, but only if the competitions actually fit. And they don't without making it nonsensical

what do you understand about fitting? you mean, that each day should be dedicated for one type of games, right?

4 days per week are perfect for me, only the top teams will play this much matches the whole season... They have top managers so there is no problem.

Interesting, but let me highlight one point.

Power of play-offs:
Play-offs are more thrilling than league matches. Therefore I think that the idea of International Cup with group stage is a good one. Yes, you are at risk of playing less matches in the second half of the season. But many of these matches will not be that important - there will be even matches with teams that decided to "start anew". What's more important? Number of official matches played or their relevance?

In that case there would probably be National Cup as proposed by devs so that new teams have a chance to play more matches.

Yup that's exactly what I mean. That is my biggest issue with what you have proposed.

There are other issues, but each league should only ever occur on the one day.

Top managers aren't ones who can just play more, it's those who train well, make good tactics, balance finances with results.

If you want 4 matches or more per week, pick literally any other football manager game on the internet

Seriously take in to consideration slavista's idea. It is the best one of all those we have seen today.

It keeps matches consistent with days.
It shortens the season.
It adds in an international league which makes things interesting for all nations

And with a couple of very minor adjustments, it could be perfect