Subject: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

Seriously take in to consideration slavista's idea. It is the best one of all those we have seen today.

It keeps matches consistent with days.
It shortens the season.
It adds in an international league which makes things interesting for all nations

And with a couple of very minor adjustments, it could be perfect

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So for me it's close to option 1 or 2 in the poll with different time frame.

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1.For now we decided to focus on majority of users, we need to remember, that NT managers are only 2% of all players, so we want to go with it step by step.



this 2% always supporting the game with all their effort
all the years every day is online always give the present , always with patience and good era for the game most of them years and years with plus, this 2% It is the one of the most stronger column of the users

this 2% is much higher number here where you trying to catch the pulse and in any activity

you make a season schedule plan without calculating the flagship of the matches , the most powerfull part of the best strategy game
it's so hard to devote a little bit of your energy just to calculate and include and which days of that schedule will be dedicated to NT matches ?

you try see an army, ignoring your "comandos"

I don't think we deserve that even if we are 2%
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it does not really shorten (14 weeks is not 12 :-p )
It keeps matches consistent with days. like option 1 and 3, that the same regular events... option 2 is a little more problematic
It adds in an international league. instead of cup, good point, we get at least 2 games/w
— slavista's calendar is really close to option 1, adding more official games/w (because of IT league) . But why not, and i prefer league than a cup.

— I read many complain about 12 weeks, but i really dont understand : the problem (from this same users) are mostly number of games by weeks! not 15, 14, 13, 12 season weeks ^^ why the hell not shorten ?

Yup. Close but makes it fit nicely.

It means your ideas aren't too far off the mark, but needed a bit of improvement.

But surely you look at that and think, that is so much more simple.

It could even be reduced to a 13 week season if you just have the one play-off match. But this is with a 7 team league. The other way around it would be to make it a 12 team league, everyone plays everyone once, and everyone splits the income from matches. And the stadium is the halfway point (for standing, terraces, benches and seats) in numbers to determine the number of spectators. This would allow 2 auto promotions, and 6 playoff matches for promotion at the end of the season (which should help flush bots to lower leagues quicker, and advance human teams together quicker)

i already post a reply to this. of course its not 2% NT

"It keeps matches consistent with days. like option 1 and 3"
Have you looked at option 1? They are not consistent.

And option 3 has 4 games per week. This is too many. And then on top you add juniors, you add the U21 NT team, you add the Senior NT team, that is a match every day of the week to get behind/organise.

This is way way way too much.

So it is not like option 1 or 3.

As I said, shorten is fine, if the seasons fit in to it appropriately. The problem is not the number of weeks, it is the scheduling and number of matches per week

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The users who prefer the appearance of the national teams I think deserve the same attention as the others!

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ok, if some option with 3 games in week will win, that looks pretty clear, that we should make some contrproposals for it as we speak.

Unless option 3 will be most preffered, becouse it work that way (dedicated days for each competition).

Have you looked at option 1? They are not consistent.

how ?
EDIT: ok 2 leagues and same completion by week. ok. But the calendar is quite regular in term of days; that 's not a big deal. So slav' is more consistent, OK, but not a big deal.

im agree about NT and juniors. But thats already happen in slav' proposal, that does not change anything : we need rooms during weeks, not a season. Why the hell your stick on 15w that will never solve anything during a week?



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Well, i Was answering that.

So one again - sure it is as you wrote. But my point Was about something different - we mean, that for now we need to start from some general plan for majority of users, then we will fit NT games into that proposition.

I never mentioned, that NT is not a important part of the game, just we need to work step by step, so National Teams need to wait a bit.

Consistent days for each competition are essential in order not to confuse the users. Option 1 has sometimes league matches on Friday, sometimes not. The first play off game is on Tuesday and the final of the national cup is on Tuesday while all the previous rounds are on Friday. And option 2 is similar chaos that would cause the increasing number of forgot-to-set line ups.

Also reducing season to 12 weeks give you much more work to balance out everything than "smaller" change to 14/15 weeks. I already pointed to some problems caused by such a big change.

I appreciate that you want to make changes and to improve the game.
But why such a potential major change straight off the bat?
Ironing out and improving the stuff that people don't like would have a positive effect on people to begin with, so why not concentrate on doing that first?
With what is being proposed you might as well just start a new game from scratch so everybody was on an even playing field because players trained to 16 week seasons would be much better than the ones being trained in 12 week seasons, which would cause an imbalance in the game immediately.
So you'd be taking all this effort to make the game better and yet you would have created an immediate advantage to current players with the top stars.
I have to say that I'm not a fan of any proposal changing the length of the season especially as I've never heard anybody moan about this. Maybe they have but I never saw it.

clearly my message is to the developers and not DON SAL

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