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Subject: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

2020-05-01 19:18:16
Well, i pretty sure i've answered that at least two times, so let it be - third. ;)

You are right of course, and it wasnt my intention to sugest, that we will not improve NT teams part of the game too.
But for now - we need to start from league system for majority of players, so thats why we don't put NT teams in the schedule yet.

We agree, that national teams should be included, but it will be made in next step, we need to take one part of the job for now.
2020-05-01 19:20:36
+1
2020-05-01 19:23:55
After giving it some more thought I would vote for option three instead of 2. National cup won't last forever, international cup is only for top teams. So basically for the majority of users there won't be much more than 2 games a week . Also I like the 12 teams idea and 2 promotion spots that much I really like to see that implememented. In essence only the geeks will have to play 4 matches a week and those are the ones who do mind that the least.

Also like the idea of splitting into league cup and national cup , cause matches will have more suspense.

The reason I also like 12 team leagues is that I would expect the corresponding forums to be more lively again. Maybe I start even to do tactics again and start watching matches again which I haven't done for many years now. That in mind it says a lot about the junior and training system being the thing keeping me here. And that would bring me to my last concern: I really wouldn't want to see the benefit of extra training like the current 100 min/ 110 min (or whatever is 100 %) gone since it has been adding some more spice to the game.

Ah one more thing: kryminators idea of having several matches a day might not appear quite realistic, but might offer some sort of solution concerning time management for some users.

2020-05-01 19:25:22
international cup will be for everyone, not only top teams
2020-05-01 19:27:44
You also have to keep in mind that is very human to not like changes. People are slow to accept new things.

Why not trying one something new and see how it goes, maybe we do like it more than expected.

No idea if the devs would consider a trial season so to say, but that might be an option. See it in reality and then vote after a certain period of time.
2020-05-01 19:33:50
with this fixture 12 weeks one NT game per week WCQ will not fit group of 7 .....
not to mention that unofficial tournaments like copa america and euro 27 will be over
kinda we cannot implement something without thinking for other parts of the game..
2020-05-01 19:35:20
Ah I missread it you are right of course. Still the 12 teams and 2 spot promotion weigh more for me and still international cup wont last whole season. I am willing to try out something new.

Maybe some lineup assistant who can automaticall organise lineups in case of users fogetting about it and taking into account injured players might help.

Might require some AI or alternatively users can programm some standard tactics with standard replacement of players for such an event? Or it could be even used for cups that users don't care for ... problem solved.

Ok might be a bit wild this idea:)
2020-05-01 19:36:15
Perfect!
2020-05-01 19:40:49
I rather would say, that we should think about that kind of tournaments (continental) to be a part of official game.
But it's for next step for sure.
2020-05-01 19:42:45
For sure we will test final solution with test server - that also will be a good verification.
2020-05-01 19:50:07
I rather would say, that we should think about that kind of tournaments (continental) to be a part of official game.
But it's for next step for sure.


For sure we will test final solution with test server - that also will be a good verification.

Ok perfect.
2020-05-01 19:50:09
My friend, we must see Sokker as a mirror of reality. Is it so difficult to understand that the closer he is to real soccer the more interesting he becomes?

Ignoring that the football world is divided into continents is a serious mistake.

Try to look from the outside in. What users want is to simulate the real Soccer.
2020-05-01 19:51:59
I disagree, but maybe you just found that one single user disagreeing with you:)

Seriously I believe with an online game you need to have different things in mind.
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2020-05-01 19:56:13
with so many games generation i know you guys will work on optimization but in the past with lost users we had problem with match generation will infra will be upgraded as the code? we do not want praying to server to come back we all remember those times
2020-05-01 20:10:06
Well, i pretty sure i've answered that at least two times, so let it be - third. ;)

You are right of course, and it wasnt my intention to sugest, that we will not improve NT teams part of the game too.
But for now - we need to start from league system for majority of players, so thats why we don't put NT teams in the schedule yet.

We agree, that national teams should be included, but it will be made in next step, we need to take one part of the job for now.


Raul
I understand your needs to first reform the championships that are the structure of the game and then move on to modify the tournaments for the NT! It seems right!

In the meantime, can I ask you if the modification invoked by the majority of the CT, that is to make the players' skills visible to the national team coach, has been taken into consideration and if so when will it be introduced?

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2020-05-01 20:11:00
Actually all groups for World Cup there are 6 teams. Why you do a fixation about 7 teams. There are 10 Official match NT per Season for qualification to the world cup.

I cannot understand your problem.