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Subject: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

2020-05-02 12:38:38
And that would bring me to my last concern: I really wouldn't want to see the benefit of extra training like the current 100 min/ 110 min (or whatever is 100 %) gone since it has been adding some more spice to the game.

Did you answer it? If so I missed it. Is something similar planned?
2020-05-02 13:46:19
But it's still mainly about how many games users want to play per week? well, we dont see to much voices against additional games in week - discussion is more about how many of them should be added. Even in slavista proposal it's still one game per week more.



2020-05-02 13:47:56
Lets wait for next Dev Diary, it should be dedicated for a training - we think that our proposal for training will address it.
2020-05-02 13:51:45
I think the general consensus is you can add a third game as long as it is for a fun reason (like an international league rather than cup) and as long as it fits to it's own day of the week.

Really the poll should be:

Would you like - to keep sokker to 2 games a week: league & cup/friendly
- 3 games per week, league, cup/friendly and international league
- 4 game per week, league, league, cup/friendly, international league
- 4 games per week, league, cup/friendly, friendly, international league.

I did actually propose an idea in the number of weeks topic, which would allow most countries to be able to participate, at least to some extent, in a region cup after the national cup is done
2020-05-02 14:00:00
juytt to Raul
For sure, training is important about competitions, our habits is one match one training, so i it could save a lot of discussions and (useless) critics about adding competitions.

Not to say that adding competitions is not a challenge if we can't progress by just winning (actually progression and challenge is made mainly by training and trading, not winning titles!). Nothing about "progression" in your competition proposal, we can't judge the real challenge.

Well, to be clear, your competition proposals comes too early and too precise, its really depends on many other changes and context. (But, clearly, i m agree with your ALL your goals, just the method...)

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2020-05-02 14:00:16
You right, we see from overall discussion, that its important for most of users to keep dedicated days for perticular competitions. But option 1 and 2 can be upgraded that way (maybe even with setting a bit longer season).

So as you say - its rather about 3 or 4 games per week. And also how many team in league. Friendlies - we want to eliminate them as strong as it's possible, so your point number 3 it's not an option for us.
2020-05-02 14:03:46
Raul to juytt
Sure, it's hard to get all context for now, especially from your perspecite (for DEVs it's much easier, we design our changes as one environment).

We belivie that with next Dev Diary it will be much more clear - it will be dedicated for training.
But, as our options are about adding extra games in the week, for now it's best idea, to dont think about training (i know, i know... easy to say!), becouse no matter what we will decide (3 weeks or 4) we need to address training as well for both directions:)
2020-05-02 14:23:58
First of all thank you for giving options to us and asking as for an opinion.
Think its great to have International cup as third game in a week (but i prefer it as cup, not as a league, its much more interesting when you have to fight for the next game)

Weeks with 2 league matches at the end of the season (+ National cup + International cup in case you are still into those competitions) will be really hard to do, especially if we include NT & U21 games, thats too much and need to be solved, with option 1 or with more weeks in a season, you decide. Thats why i dont like option number 3 (both 1 and 2 are fine by me).
2020-05-02 14:30:57
First of all thank you for giving options to us and asking as for an opinion.
Think its great to have International cup as third game in a week (but i prefer it as cup, not as a league, its much more interesting when you have to fight for the next game)


+1, I don't like the idea of 2 leagues. It would be strange and national league would have no emotion.
I support the idea of sviktorov set in the other topic.
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2020-05-02 14:37:16
But it's still mainly about how many games users want to play per week? well, we dont see to much voices
@Raul really ? putting so many games in 12 weeks i saw so many comments against this
2020-05-02 14:49:05
i've said lot of times - it's not about how long is season, its' how many games we play per week. Lenght of season will follow to number of games and competitions, so as follow number of teams per league.
2020-05-02 14:51:19
exactly games how many games per week you have to play depends of length of the season more games in short season means lots games per week....
2020-05-02 14:53:07
my humble opinion of the forum is most people want more competitions but in slower pace and i will stop lets other comment im going out
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2020-05-02 15:12:53
i've said lot of times - it's not about how long is season, its' how many games we play per week. Lenght of season will follow to number of games and competitions, so as follow number of teams per league

If that's the main question, I think many managers 3 games / week would be fine.

We will discuss the length of a season later. no problem

thanks for your involvement :)

2020-05-02 15:13:52
+1
2020-05-02 15:14:21
And last 2cents for me putting shorter season means we do not open possibility for new competition in long future unless we plan to convert the game to super fast manager