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0. tragic
1. hopeless
2. unsatisfactory
3. poor
4. weak
5. average
6. adequate
7. good
8. solid
9. very good
10. excellent
11. formidable
12. outstanding
13. incredible
14. brilliant
15. magical
16. unearthly
17.terrestrial
18.supernatural
19.mystic
20.psychic
21. divine
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0. tragic
1. hopeless
2. unsatisfactory
3. poor
4. weak
5. average
6. adequate
7. good
8. solid
9. very good
10. excellent
11. formidable
12. outstanding
13. incredible
14. brilliant
15. magical
16. unearthly
17.terrestrial
18.supernatural
19.mystic
20.psychic
21. divine
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I don't think there will be much players who will reach divine.. only the really TOPPLAYERS will reach this level, it will be beautifull to only have 5-6 messi's in the sokker world
Just a question because I don't play the game, but how many levels does Hattrick have?
I wouldn't want us to go copying that game.
I wouldn't want us to go copying that game.
I don't know, i stopped playing hattrick in 2010 or so... i don't care about hattrick, sokker is my great love
I don't think there will be much players who will reach divine.. only the really TOPPLAYERS will reach this level, it will be beautifull to only have 5-6 messi's in the sokker world
I think there is something you are all overlooking with this.
The top level is basically 18 right now.
All everybody keeps saying is that only the top players will reach the top level (so say L20 for sake of argument). But that isn't the case. As soon as you change the top skill level people will train to that level instead. So all you would in fact create would be players with higher main skills with lower side skills.
Many years ago that's actually what hattrick were like until they changed things. I appreciate that this isn't hattrick but if they deemed this a bad thing then I don't see the logic of us going down that road.
I think there is something you are all overlooking with this.
The top level is basically 18 right now.
All everybody keeps saying is that only the top players will reach the top level (so say L20 for sake of argument). But that isn't the case. As soon as you change the top skill level people will train to that level instead. So all you would in fact create would be players with higher main skills with lower side skills.
Many years ago that's actually what hattrick were like until they changed things. I appreciate that this isn't hattrick but if they deemed this a bad thing then I don't see the logic of us going down that road.
I'm just saying, increasing the skills to 19,20, or 21 can mean that there aren't so much top players with the maximum on 4-5 skills.. off course there will be trained players with a high skill and low side skills, this is the case right now also. Having a players with 3x divine will be hard to find. Nowadays you open the TL and you find 3x divine every second of the transfer market... this isn't right.
All everybody keeps saying is that only the top players will reach the top level (so say L20 for sake of argument). But that isn't the case. As soon as you change the top skill level people will train to that level instead. So all you would in fact create would be players with higher main skills with lower side skills
that would be better than now..
Anyway, my idea is that should not be possible to have more than ONE skill at max level.
that would be better than now..
Anyway, my idea is that should not be possible to have more than ONE skill at max level.
Not if you need 30 weeks to pop to the new top skills but only 5 or 6 to make a side skill better
The levels 19 and 20 would have to take a long time, however, keepers shouldn't have a problem reaching this given what age you can currently get them to 18.
That then gives the game an imbalance as strikers would struggle to reach 19/20 striker skill.
That would see the top keepers being somewhat superior to the strikers which seems a touch illogical.
Maybe the way around this would be to cap the keepers at 18.
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That then gives the game an imbalance as strikers would struggle to reach 19/20 striker skill.
That would see the top keepers being somewhat superior to the strikers which seems a touch illogical.
Maybe the way around this would be to cap the keepers at 18.
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If that's the only problem, just make keeper skill harder to train, like pace or striker
If that's the only problem, just make keeper skill harder to train, like pace or striker
Surely then nobody would train them.
Surely then nobody would train them.
Just let every skill be to the maximum, even GK. Even a defender with solide scoring can score on a corner to a divine GK... In real life i have seen shit players score against top GK.
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Simpler could be to make the Superdivine skill 3x harder to get BUT, give that stat a significant benefit in comparison to Divine! Today, you just cannot see the difference between divine and superdivine.
Please, try not to comment in this way. It is a good time for sokker and everyone has the right to express their position. We have the opportunity to evaluate the goodness of ideas. You can agree or disagree, but always remaining respectful.
Thank you
Thank you
do not forget that we are 10,000 users. Many of us played the game for many years. So we really like the way it is. be careful with the changes. Yes evolution. No revolution. If we change the game a lot and get 2000 new users but 4000 old users leave it ... bad business. And the old users we have shown to be very faithful ... we do not know the new users !! hehe
If we change...? The programmers change, we just play. Or in some cases play and actually add something more to Sokker; making help programms, making apps, making logos, making other things.
Sokker needs to be updated drasticly, an evolution of everthing. This should have been done slowely over the past decade but 'upgrades' where nothing more as polishing a turd. So now it has to be done all at once. Bad business is to do way too little and keep going the way it goes and watch Sokker slowly die. Sokker needs new active players badly!
You mentioned 10.000 players. I think most of these 10.000 are not active at all, see forum which is completely dead, see new sign ups also dead as no one is getting new players to Sokker, number of coaches on the transferlist is also dead as almost no one is activily recruiting new ones anymore, small countries have become tiny countries, etc. And most probably just a very small percentage of the 10.000 are still active players. DEVs will have the numbers of unique logins each day, and I'm pretty sure they know exactly how bad it is.
And what is wrong with 12-18 year players who want to learn this game and like slow gaming? There are hunderds of millions of gamers, or even billions. You can't say 'they' (a very large group) are no Sokker players. Or you did a serious market research and know the numbers, but I hardly doubt that. Besides, how many did start at the age of 18 or a bit older, and are now the 30+ year old players. If Sokker can get 200.000 12-18 year old players to this game and 'only' 1% keeps playing, Sokker has 20% more managers as it has today!
Yes, it should still be Sokker, but finally completely updated. The website looks like crap, the graphics look like crap, the layout of options is in some cases crap (tactic editor under training, tiny right upper corner while this is one of the best things of Sokker, youth school in office, and more)
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If we change...? The programmers change, we just play. Or in some cases play and actually add something more to Sokker; making help programms, making apps, making logos, making other things.
Sokker needs to be updated drasticly, an evolution of everthing. This should have been done slowely over the past decade but 'upgrades' where nothing more as polishing a turd. So now it has to be done all at once. Bad business is to do way too little and keep going the way it goes and watch Sokker slowly die. Sokker needs new active players badly!
You mentioned 10.000 players. I think most of these 10.000 are not active at all, see forum which is completely dead, see new sign ups also dead as no one is getting new players to Sokker, number of coaches on the transferlist is also dead as almost no one is activily recruiting new ones anymore, small countries have become tiny countries, etc. And most probably just a very small percentage of the 10.000 are still active players. DEVs will have the numbers of unique logins each day, and I'm pretty sure they know exactly how bad it is.
And what is wrong with 12-18 year players who want to learn this game and like slow gaming? There are hunderds of millions of gamers, or even billions. You can't say 'they' (a very large group) are no Sokker players. Or you did a serious market research and know the numbers, but I hardly doubt that. Besides, how many did start at the age of 18 or a bit older, and are now the 30+ year old players. If Sokker can get 200.000 12-18 year old players to this game and 'only' 1% keeps playing, Sokker has 20% more managers as it has today!
Yes, it should still be Sokker, but finally completely updated. The website looks like crap, the graphics look like crap, the layout of options is in some cases crap (tactic editor under training, tiny right upper corner while this is one of the best things of Sokker, youth school in office, and more)
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