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In my opinion i think what the season with 12 weeks is very well, because i'm a new user and i have 8 seasons of sokker( 2 years) and i training very well my plaiers, but i can't concurated with top plaiers.
If will be 12 weeks seasons, i think what the speed of training make will be faster. I don't understang users what saied what the plaiers with many Skills with 5x divin is bad. Why?! Try to training some player!
So, If will be 12 weeks seasons, the speed of training will be faster how was at 14 weeks.
P.S.
In my opinion i think what the season with 12 weeks is very well, because i'm a new user and i have 8 seasons of sokker( 2 years) and i training very well my plaiers, but i can't concurated with top plaiers.
If will be 12 weeks seasons, i think what the speed of training make will be faster. I don't understang users what saied what the plaiers with many Skills with 5x divin is bad. Why?! Try to training some player!
So, If will be 12 weeks seasons, the speed of training will be faster how was at 14 weeks.
Raul, I like so much your job. I always appreciate your involvement, thank u.
First of all, why not do the polls in sokker? so we would avoid duplication of votes since it's possible in those external surveys.
On the other hand, I don't mind 2 league matches per week, but 4 matches per week is totally other game.
With 2 matches per week + 1 for national cup, for me it's ok, but we should consider another kind of international cup because it no longer makes sense. Maybe, it could be replaced for the current champions league and something such Europa league. Even if you increase to 12 teams the league this would be easier to do.
Users would be more motivated to see so many possibilities to play a prestigious international tournament and not a long and boring international league having 4 matches per week.
The problem that arose was that this system would not benefit small countries teams, since they could be eliminated at the first round, but does not it happen in real life? With a group stage and that would guarantee you some matches as well and it would be much more interesting competitions and according to reality as much as possible.
I really liked the idea of the international cup but thinking about one league match a week, for two, it makes no sense.
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First of all, why not do the polls in sokker? so we would avoid duplication of votes since it's possible in those external surveys.
On the other hand, I don't mind 2 league matches per week, but 4 matches per week is totally other game.
With 2 matches per week + 1 for national cup, for me it's ok, but we should consider another kind of international cup because it no longer makes sense. Maybe, it could be replaced for the current champions league and something such Europa league. Even if you increase to 12 teams the league this would be easier to do.
Users would be more motivated to see so many possibilities to play a prestigious international tournament and not a long and boring international league having 4 matches per week.
The problem that arose was that this system would not benefit small countries teams, since they could be eliminated at the first round, but does not it happen in real life? With a group stage and that would guarantee you some matches as well and it would be much more interesting competitions and according to reality as much as possible.
I really liked the idea of the international cup but thinking about one league match a week, for two, it makes no sense.
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more champions league-type competitions including for the top four places in the league and cup champions
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All the proposals for the international cup made sense if we considered that there was only one league game per week. With the international cup we guaranteed the second official match per week for everyone.
If the 2 official matches per week are guaranteed with the league matches (as in option 1), I see the international cup for all users too much (4 matches are many). The logical thing then is that the international cup is only disputed by the national league and cup champions (such as the current champions cup) and, perhaps, create a second cup only for second and third of the first national leagues and losers of the natinal cup final. No more
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All the proposals for the international cup made sense if we considered that there was only one league game per week. With the international cup we guaranteed the second official match per week for everyone.
If the 2 official matches per week are guaranteed with the league matches (as in option 1), I see the international cup for all users too much (4 matches are many). The logical thing then is that the international cup is only disputed by the national league and cup champions (such as the current champions cup) and, perhaps, create a second cup only for second and third of the first national leagues and losers of the natinal cup final. No more
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Croatia has 98 users. I'll type it
Small Sokker country - less than 100 users or
Medium Sokker country - between 100 - 400 users
Small Sokker country - less than 100 users or
Medium Sokker country - between 100 - 400 users
I've suggested this before, but with the proposed new schedule it makes even more sense: Why not have international leagues in Arcade format? That way managers who want international competitions can get them, while those who don't want more games won't be forced to join. Seems like a solution to make everyone happy.
So you kinda want plus for everyone with no need to set a match yourself...
If you need to change the game take youth schools, make them a basic part of every team and transfer them into something like U19 which can be controled. Youth schools right now are anoying random palyers generator, matches are way od torture for viewers. It will bring more matches for everybody without fucking up adult players world.
If you need to change the game take youth schools, make them a basic part of every team and transfer them into something like U19 which can be controled. Youth schools right now are anoying random palyers generator, matches are way od torture for viewers. It will bring more matches for everybody without fucking up adult players world.
perhaps, create a second cup only for second and third of the first national leagues and losers of the cup final. No more
Easy and very attractive.
Easy and very attractive.
Didn't know polish was one of the official language in Switzerland....
see marcopolo
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see marcopolo
+1
I want no changes, but since the training is gonna change (people like it, devs like it), I am in favor of 2 league matches per week (1st option).
The things I don't like about 1st option are:
1. The break is too long.
If you are not playing in the league playoffs, you get a 2 weeks break, equivalent of 4 league matches. That is too much.
Solutions:
1. There can be only one playoff game in the 12th week, so that week can be a break.
2. No playoffs, week 12 free for everyone. We have 12 teams per league, 4 can be relegated directly, it is not a half of the league anymore.
2. The International Cups.
It is lame, it doesn't add anything to the game other then several guaranteed matches. Since everyone can play, it rewards poor performances in the league.
Solution:
1. Keep Champions Cup as it is. Apply group stage to National and League Cups, and make them start at the same time. If a 6-round group stage can't fit, make it 3-round.
2. Keep National cup as it is, ad League cup that starts at the same time.
Extra idea for extra matches: Division Cups
A 4-round competition, for each division/league. I am running out of expressions :)
A cup for 12 teams, in a league:
- First round (12 teams): positions 5-12 play each other for promotion in the 2nd round, top 4 teams play each other for a better draw position in the second round.
- Second round (8 teams)
- Third round (4 teams)
- Fourth round (2 teams)
This would be mainly used for training. It would start at the end of CC, so everyone would have an opening in their schedule.
Anyway, it should look like this.
I placed the Division Cups in the schedule just so people can understand the idea, it is not a "must be" thing.
Colored blocks are guaranteed matches.
The things I don't like about 1st option are:
1. The break is too long.
If you are not playing in the league playoffs, you get a 2 weeks break, equivalent of 4 league matches. That is too much.
Solutions:
1. There can be only one playoff game in the 12th week, so that week can be a break.
2. No playoffs, week 12 free for everyone. We have 12 teams per league, 4 can be relegated directly, it is not a half of the league anymore.
2. The International Cups.
It is lame, it doesn't add anything to the game other then several guaranteed matches. Since everyone can play, it rewards poor performances in the league.
Solution:
1. Keep Champions Cup as it is. Apply group stage to National and League Cups, and make them start at the same time. If a 6-round group stage can't fit, make it 3-round.
2. Keep National cup as it is, ad League cup that starts at the same time.
Extra idea for extra matches: Division Cups
A 4-round competition, for each division/league. I am running out of expressions :)
A cup for 12 teams, in a league:
- First round (12 teams): positions 5-12 play each other for promotion in the 2nd round, top 4 teams play each other for a better draw position in the second round.
- Second round (8 teams)
- Third round (4 teams)
- Fourth round (2 teams)
This would be mainly used for training. It would start at the end of CC, so everyone would have an opening in their schedule.
Anyway, it should look like this.
I placed the Division Cups in the schedule just so people can understand the idea, it is not a "must be" thing.
Colored blocks are guaranteed matches.
I just realized that there is a "d cup" in my schedule lol
Google it to see how good the idea is :D
Google it to see how good the idea is :D
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Terrible idea. Without an international cup, you are destroying all small countries who are already bored in this game with no users in their national cup.
And you can't have national cup and league cup start at the same time, because national cup has all teams from the nation in it, so you are suggesting to play two games on one day.
If you start the league cup one week later, then you go against what you whinged about in another thread with rewarding national cup drop-outs, as you phrased it.
so no, not only does it not work, but you are trying to destroy smaller nations.
Terrible idea. Without an international cup, you are destroying all small countries who are already bored in this game with no users in their national cup.
And you can't have national cup and league cup start at the same time, because national cup has all teams from the nation in it, so you are suggesting to play two games on one day.
If you start the league cup one week later, then you go against what you whinged about in another thread with rewarding national cup drop-outs, as you phrased it.
so no, not only does it not work, but you are trying to destroy smaller nations.
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I like to see a calendar without this useless international cup
I like to see a calendar without this useless international cup
I am referring to an older version of the idea.
Only teams from top 2 or 3 leagues play in the National Cup.
Rest of the teams play in League Cups.
What are teams from 4th league even doing in the National Cup, getting trashed by top teams.
Only teams from top 2 or 3 leagues play in the National Cup.
Rest of the teams play in League Cups.
What are teams from 4th league even doing in the National Cup, getting trashed by top teams.