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Subject: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

2023-09-22 21:02:47
I know I should ask Raul the question, but like you said...he disappears sometimes, like now, and I know you are one of the more closer people to him in Sokker...
So I figured it would be easier to ask you, knowing that even you are kept in the dark too often.
Well...I'll try to remember the question for when he comes back...
2023-09-22 21:11:58
Is it possible to not update the club form right after the game? Today I was late for a game and I accidentally saw the outcome in this section.
2023-09-22 22:57:58
Apparently there is a (?) sign during arcade matches in club view (based on what I saw yesterday). So I would assume that it'll be soon implemented into regular/friendly matches.
Only exclusion is an old season view, which is still visible in NT, where not only You can see if match ended in win/lose/draw but You still see the result of such match before You get match report.
2023-09-23 01:17:38
I think that the "?" symbol is displayed while the game is in progress and when the game is finished it is changed to win/draw/lose.
2023-09-24 02:20:11
Yeah, I've trained myself not to look. When I watch games i stare at the top corner of the screen until the flash loads
2023-09-24 04:29:30
The other reason why you may get only a small % of votes in the community, especially when there is a long term or only single candidate, is because there's no point voting when you see someone who has 10 out of 10 votes, no other candidate or no realistic one.
Dones't mean those voting don't care, just there is no point.

Also many users in sokker don't actually exist. They are people that signed up and left the game. Or log in once a month and barely avoid going bot. I would say these make up at least 50% users. So if a country only had 25% people voting, that is more like 50% active users voting and many others not seeing the point to vote as the decision is already made.

I know for a fact there are more people training FOR the NT at the expense of their own team than votes myself and cometer have received this election
2023-09-24 13:50:19
They are people that signed up and left the game.

Those ones are now deleted regularly.

Or log in once a month and barely avoid going bot. I would say these make up at least 50% users.

Stats from Monday:
5930 users logged in in the last 7 days (not counting registered in the last 7 days)
592 users logged in 8-50 days ago (not counting registered in the last 50 days)
240 users logged in later than 50 days ago and were not yet converted to bots
632 registered in the last 50 days (huge majority of them will be bots soon)
2023-09-24 15:14:16
There must be something wrong, right?! When players only see what the game is about, they don't continue in it.
2023-09-24 15:56:11
Same things that were wrong in 2004

bad, outdated layout
hidden best feature [tactical editor] - put in... training section
no entry level help [many people after years of playing still don't know they can move the ball in tactics editor]
weak, old starting players in team
demanding start [especially finances]

but the biggest problems are the layout + it looks really boring when you join in. I was very inactive for first months here, but my friend from school was active since day 1 and managed to make me interested in this game, when he explained the basics to me
2023-09-24 16:51:12
They are people that signed up and left the game.

Those ones are now deleted regularly.


I think it's more a matter of 50% of the users never come on the forum...they simply don't know about NT elections and it's the bunch I called the sonic players.
They only care about their team, their players...nothing else. The play the game like an arcade game....going from 1 point to the next, not seeing what the sokker world has to offer.
It's rather a matter of what they see is what they get.
They are ignorant to the community part of the game, not because they don't like it, but because that part takes too much time from them.
2023-09-24 19:17:30
Well, I guess it is time for me to sell out my whole team, buy 10 trainees, and start playing corner tactics again. This is by far the way I have the most fun playing this game. Thanks Devs. All this stupid financial reform, bonuses, expectations .... none of that deals with the problems of this game.
2023-09-25 13:52:42
Not long ago i counted the last 100 new managers in my country... the result was really bad.
They leave almost straightaway.
I even tried to give them a PM offering my help.

I think they dont have enough information to get started, the rules are not up to date.
There should be a communication with them at the beginning or a tutorial.
like welcome letter with the important links and direction to forums.
Community would always help...

But they are very alone to get started.
2023-09-25 13:58:53
+1
2023-09-25 18:40:14
I've offered to do the same here in America.

Totally agree.
2023-09-25 20:02:17
No arcades played today..
2023-09-26 07:28:41
we already have something like this - when I signed up I got a DM with links