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Subject: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

2024-03-12 14:29:22
Those at the top will cherry pick all the best trainees and will therefore earn the most profit from reselling

that's the biggest misconception of people who don't make money

you don't make money on best youths, those actually often LOSE value or have same value after x seasons of selling

you make best money on relatively cheep (0.5-2.5m euro) youths

the biggest resource in making money is NOT 100m euro in the bank, the best resource are: 10 training slots filled with youths + giving every trained youth at least 96% of training every week
2024-03-12 14:30:45
Nobody is forcing you to sell all your players. You can easily replace 2 or 3 players per season and stay mid table. But no....

+1 That's the point.
2024-03-12 14:31:08
There are many roads to Rome and you have only named one of them.
That is far too little in my opinion!
There are many strategies to achieve success and you have to work on it with interest,
as success cannot be created out of nothing!!!


I talk facts, you are using some weird motivation slogans

there is only one road in this game to reach the top: making money on trading/training
2024-03-12 14:32:35
I guess I should have been a bit clearer. I was talking about best youths in terms of profit for reselling but I acknowledge that wasn’t clear.
2024-03-12 14:32:52
Maybe we should the fix corner tactics problem so that we can still get fun even with a Young team, and that has an easy solution: make the injury chance to be equal to all the 22 players playing a match

please explain to me how making youths have bigger chance for being injured in a friendly game is a "fun" element for you
2024-03-12 14:35:56
But since those are not the most valuable, they can be cherry picked by everyone.

The one problem many people omit in such discussions is that most people that reach the top deserve to do so because they know more about the game, they are more active and they spend more time on improving their team

And now people are looking for a solution how to make less active, less interested and less knowledgeable users successful. It's impossible, they will always stay in lower/middle leagues. Those at the top will simply rotate for as long as they care about playing.

This is a simple game but many people still don't know how to play or don't want to play it efficiently.
2024-03-12 14:36:36
Where did you see that i replaced all my team:))) most of my players are in my team from 3-4-10 seasons.
2024-03-12 14:43:26
You can easily replace 2 or 3 players per season and stay mid table.

I love to hear the advices on how "you can stay at the top easily" from people who play here for 18 years and their biggest achievement was winning 3rd league once (after 17 years)

I would love to know how do you know what it's like to play at the top in this game, please explain
2024-03-12 14:49:41
"there is only one road in this game to reach the top: making money on trading/training"

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I still maintain that there are many ways,
to be successful at SOKKER,
you also need to be a little flexible and
not monotonously monotone!!!
2024-03-12 14:52:04
I maintain that the grass is pink
to be a successful at being GRASS,
it needs to be a little flexible and
not monotonously green!!!
2024-03-12 14:56:49
SORRY,
what you are doing here is worthless in terms of content, hehehehe........................
2024-03-12 14:58:56
I assume comment of ionutzc is for anyone, not for you particularly. But I searched this post from you:

instead of being encouraged to have as many good teams in the game as possible, they are encouraged:
- after you promote in a top league, sell the players and play 40 mark team
- after relegating from a top league, you sell and play with 30 marks
- instead of normal matches----tactical corner


And my +1 is to remark that to be competitive what we all need is more teams at same level to compete. No need to sell all players in any case.

For me, the higher level competition the lesser rooms for young players to train is a valid mechanism to assure the flux on top.

Corner tactics is the worst thing I ever seen in a game.
2024-03-12 15:06:49
I am still shocked to support borkos (our master of I am right you are wrong) but definitely agree with this single sentence. This is the essence of sokker gameplay: Training and trading is much more important than anything else to reach the top…

Until you reach the top and you don’t understand why you loose with 85+ players and finally blame the game engine for a poor tactic :-)
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2024-03-12 15:09:46
Poey to Kemk
The game forces to use corner tactics.
You need to make profit with those trainees ( otherwise you will not reach anything in this game and will end bankrupt) and you wont get profit with injuries.
So People will try to find ways to avoid these injuries and not ending bankrupt.
Unfortunately there are no other solutions to avoid injuries..., so than People will use the 1 and only solution.

In real life it works this way also.
They only way not to die is to eat and drink.
The only option is to pay with money or to steal.
People that dont have the money will steal to be able to eat. Most of the People dont want to die ;)

So the solution is to have better options to heal injuries.
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2024-03-12 15:25:24
and Raul will not change his mind for injuries cause he is ... nice guy :)
2024-03-12 15:37:22
He should realy be aware that corner tactics will never disappear without another possible solution. You cant blame People if you will try to punish People for doing the most important thing in this game, making profit.

People should be rewarded for doing good things, but in sokker this system is broken.
Only way up is to solve this, but they wont do this, I know.
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