Subject: [info] Training issue - solutions

yeah well we discussed pretty much everything over the years. This is just my thought on what could be the issue in many seasons ahead. But I am sure you have checked this in the test server so you know better.

Injuries are still way too long in terms of missed games. There are already two topics about it in this forum.

Raul, about promo, please watch this video:


https://www.youtube.com/v/WFdZjJo_ofk

It was created by a graphic designer who loves this game (Cranber).
I am sure there are many people who can support you with this project - just ask and you will be surprised at the great resonance
( I would also like to support. I have been working on this area for a few years and I will do it for free, simply because I love this game).

-----------------------------------
Another point concerns the old design that shows the schedule.
Some people in our community are old and have great difficulties to adapt to new changes. Some of them have health problems and every change is a new big obstacle for them to continue playing this game and having fun with sokker.
I had a call from one such user last week. He is in poor health and one of his few remaining joys in life is playing sokker. He can't adapt to the new changes (especially the schedule page) and plans to sell all his players at the end of the month and give up sokker.
My request: Is it possible to make the old schedule page visible again?
I look forward to an answer as soon as possible

-----------------------------------
And as always, thanks for your communication and thanks for your efforts to make sokker better. :)

ah, i was not aware of it. Yep, it is probably a problem with autorefreshing, we will add it to bug list.

Let me ask theoretical question - what would be better, to left injuries as it is now, and remove injuries from NT, of opposite?


I agree with Mauser on this one. Injuries in NT games are ok if they are not too long. They are risk for the reward of better training.

yep, we tested it, 10 slots is the closest number to keep game balanced, 11 places would be a 10% more good players in the game globaly, so it dont look for us like step in right direction. And that unbalance between 10 slots and 11 players in line up is also good to force you to use transfer list and search for players, with too many training slots there is a risk that lot of users will focus only on training.

In good game you should be forced to use different elements to achieve your goals, so you should use a combination of good training plans with transfers, financial management, tactic, etc. We need to make sure that any of that elements would be to strong comparing to others.

From international forum:

el pupe to borkos007

We will accelerate speed of training of low level skills and medium ones

This is good, but devil is in details!

What is a low skill level? 4 or 9?
What is "medium"? 9 or 13?

Seems like very good question!

Thanks for the answer. Perhaps I will give the formation training a try with some 26-29yrs old players. If it is double (20% of advanced training) of general training, then it will be 30% after enhancing the general training right?

Well, i know that video :) it is well made, for sure it worked well and get us some new users in the past :)
We will start some advertising next week, mainly using Facebook and Google adds. Some basic, static adverts, but with new screenshots from the game and i think for testing its a good place to start.

For future - if community wants to help, we can make a group for designers to prepare some different ads and metarials for promotion and test it too, I'm open for that.

About old schedule page - well, i'm affraid we need to move forward - there are always voices like that, with every single change we make - i think that mosf of us adopted to it, just time is required. We cannot affort to maintain old pages too long. Maybe he can just try to use new page for a while and learn it, it is quite easy list in the end.

We will share details after first tests, hard to say it right now what level of skill will be boundary vs old training speed.

You are going to improve general training by 50%. And what about formation training?

I mean, for now, general training was about 10% of advanced training, and formation was about 20% +/-.
General training will be now 15%, formation will stay at 20%?

Let me ask theoretical question - what would be better, to left injuries as it is now, and remove injuries from NT, of opposite?

Make those 2 separate from each other, like cards.
So a player injured within a NT match... only injured for the NT.
A player injured for his team, only injured for his team.

And it would be nice if both, injuries and cards, are only shown for their appropriate team, so injuries and cards for NT are only visible for the NT coach, and injuries and cards for owner team, only visible for owner of player.

This will be a significant change to allow NT coaches to see the skills of the players, so actions by the NT coach won't ad on to the suffering of the owner.
It will make the game much much more fun to play!

I'm not sure if change of dormation training from 20% to 30% will be not to huge.
We need to make some tests and calculations.

Thanks for answering
(and yes, perhaps trying to learn the new page is the solution + it can be beneficial for him and his self esteem)

yep, I'm ashamed that we are still talking aobut seeing NT players skills - we started work on that feature, but still some more important bugs or changes apperas, so it is so much delayed.

We know that changes could be hard to manage for many users - that is why we try to make it page after page, till now i think it works quite well. I see same faces here, probably there would be much bigger problem with adaptation, if we would introduce new interface more massively, few pages at once for example.

Would it be something for you to consider, to split injuries for NT and owner team?