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Subject: [idea] Form Calculus
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This subject has been discussed many times before but I want to "sketch" a possible solution.
It wold be nice if form would be dependent on the games and the number of games that a player plays!
If a player plays in an official game (Championship, Cup, etc.) for at least 50 minutes he gets +0.5 in Form.
If a player plays in a friendly game for at least 50 minutes he gets +0.25 in Form.
If a player is injured or doesn't play at all one week he will drop -1.5 in Form.
This way we will have a bit of logic behind the chaos that is now Form and it will also affect the teams that have 60+ players in their team. (player's value will decrease affecting the trading business and the trading frenzie)
Ciao!
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It wold be nice if form would be dependent on the games and the number of games that a player plays!
If a player plays in an official game (Championship, Cup, etc.) for at least 50 minutes he gets +0.5 in Form.
If a player plays in a friendly game for at least 50 minutes he gets +0.25 in Form.
If a player is injured or doesn't play at all one week he will drop -1.5 in Form.
This way we will have a bit of logic behind the chaos that is now Form and it will also affect the teams that have 60+ players in their team. (player's value will decrease affecting the trading business and the trading frenzie)
Ciao!
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Would defeat the purpose of form if every player who played every game was always superdivine form. Also adds further incentive to play corner tactics etc and makes injuries even worse for those already unhappy with the state of injuries. Therefore I vote no for this idea specifically.
How can a player have super form if he doesn't play?!
Exercise/playing creates musculare tone which than, combined with nutrition, health and psychological status (motivation) lead to form!
...there is no other way to achieve form!
+0.5 and +0.25 compared to -1.5 is a good math to start with I think.
A player will have to play for the whole season (12 weeks) 2 official games per week to go from level 0 form to level 12 form.
One week of not playing will send him back to level 10.5 (10 and a hidden 0.5 maybe).
There will not bee a lot of level +18 Form players...
Playing corner tactics friendlies will only give a player +0.25 if he plays at least 50 minutes. If he plays 49 minutes than NO FORM POINTS will be allocated! You will not be able to play 2 players in a game on the same position in such a way that both players will get form points!
If a player plays more than 2 official games in a week he wil not get +1.5 form points because 100% is achieved at +1 but he will receive +0.75 points if he plays an official and a friendly game in one week!
PS: I would even make it more dramatic...
+0.5, +0.25 and a - 3 for not playing or being injured (closer to real life I think).
Cheers!
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Exercise/playing creates musculare tone which than, combined with nutrition, health and psychological status (motivation) lead to form!
...there is no other way to achieve form!
+0.5 and +0.25 compared to -1.5 is a good math to start with I think.
A player will have to play for the whole season (12 weeks) 2 official games per week to go from level 0 form to level 12 form.
One week of not playing will send him back to level 10.5 (10 and a hidden 0.5 maybe).
There will not bee a lot of level +18 Form players...
Playing corner tactics friendlies will only give a player +0.25 if he plays at least 50 minutes. If he plays 49 minutes than NO FORM POINTS will be allocated! You will not be able to play 2 players in a game on the same position in such a way that both players will get form points!
If a player plays more than 2 official games in a week he wil not get +1.5 form points because 100% is achieved at +1 but he will receive +0.75 points if he plays an official and a friendly game in one week!
PS: I would even make it more dramatic...
+0.5, +0.25 and a - 3 for not playing or being injured (closer to real life I think).
Cheers!
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Your suggestion will effectively guarantee every team's starters will be extremely high form, unless they get hurt.
I would like to see a little more reliability in form management, but we can't have a mechanic that will guarantee form increase (or decrease) - it would make the game too simple to manage.
I would like to see a little more reliability in form management, but we can't have a mechanic that will guarantee form increase (or decrease) - it would make the game too simple to manage.
We don't need a mechanic for guaranteed form increase, but for guaranteed chance increase to have better form.
Also necessary is a mechanic that prevents players to get stuck in very low form if they play at least 2 matches each week.
Higher skills should prevent players to drop in low form for seasons on.
The only thing that could make those players drop in form in the extremes should be injuries... and there are plenty of those :-p
Also necessary is a mechanic that prevents players to get stuck in very low form if they play at least 2 matches each week.
Higher skills should prevent players to drop in low form for seasons on.
The only thing that could make those players drop in form in the extremes should be injuries... and there are plenty of those :-p
Feel like we just need to know the factors for form as it currently stands before anything else happens and that may open up the possibility for controlling form to some extent whilst still having the fluctuations. Really the bulk of players should be trending to the middle levels of form for most of the time with less on the edges (both ends). This may already be happening but it does feel like you get stuck at one of the two ends for a very long time.
The biggest problem imo is that most of the time, the long term low form players, who you feel it to overcome, are the super talented beast in your team.
The useless players who almost never play, might get that too, but then it just feels normal.
But for the very best players to hang for 4..5.... seasons around tragic, it just demoralizes the owners of those players and then they lose interest in playing for prices, which in turn makes for this game to be nothing more than an open forum, where people complain alot and share their talents to show off, but where only about 1% is really (trying to) compete(ing) for prices, which, on their turn, doesn't bring any surplus to the game experience on your team.
You start wondering...why am I trying and what am I competing for?
I feel like Sokker, as a game, is a bit like Eden Hazard!
The awesome game in it's prime, but now, very far from that period, retired from participation.
The useless players who almost never play, might get that too, but then it just feels normal.
But for the very best players to hang for 4..5.... seasons around tragic, it just demoralizes the owners of those players and then they lose interest in playing for prices, which in turn makes for this game to be nothing more than an open forum, where people complain alot and share their talents to show off, but where only about 1% is really (trying to) compete(ing) for prices, which, on their turn, doesn't bring any surplus to the game experience on your team.
You start wondering...why am I trying and what am I competing for?
I feel like Sokker, as a game, is a bit like Eden Hazard!
The awesome game in it's prime, but now, very far from that period, retired from participation.
"Also necessary is a mechanic that prevents players to get stuck in very low form if they play at least 2 matches each week."
Totally agree with this. There definitely seems to be a strong tendency for players in poor or below form to basically be stuck there. I've read too too many long time players talk about this.
Totally agree with this. There definitely seems to be a strong tendency for players in poor or below form to basically be stuck there. I've read too too many long time players talk about this.
It's easier to complain than to spark up those neurons and find solutions !
74% of the voters voted NO ... so I think they are happy with how things are right now! Dann weiter geht's!
Just like over religious people I will stop asking questions, stop investigating, stop proposing alternatives, just stop thinking for myself and blindly trust the all mighty sokker!
Have a nice day!
74% of the voters voted NO ... so I think they are happy with how things are right now! Dann weiter geht's!
Just like over religious people I will stop asking questions, stop investigating, stop proposing alternatives, just stop thinking for myself and blindly trust the all mighty sokker!
Have a nice day!
Yes. I could give you such an example right now. I have a player who is moving to form 5 and plays regularly. He is currently injured.
Just like over religious people I will stop asking questions, stop investigating, stop proposing alternatives, just stop thinking for myself and blindly trust the all mighty sokker!
well you can just accept the fact that after "sparking your neurons" you still come up with bad ideas :-P
well you can just accept the fact that after "sparking your neurons" you still come up with bad ideas :-P
My consolation is that over 80% of the world's population are idiots so I can't expect all people to understand me and my ideas!
Ps: This is not meant as an insult! There are scientific studies with enough data to back me up!
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Ps: This is not meant as an insult! There are scientific studies with enough data to back me up!
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That's because YOUR specific solution isn't optimal either.
If you had a survey: " do you think players who play regularly should be stuck in low form for seasons on end" ... you'd get a different response
If you had a survey: " do you think players who play regularly should be stuck in low form for seasons on end" ... you'd get a different response
how do you increase form. came to the forum to find out not really seeing a clear answer in this forum but this is the first forum to actually address my only problem so far
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