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Subject: Fans expectations
it would be good if fan expec. will be lower if you have too young team compare to the opponents in your leageu. :D
it would be very bad, encouraging users to train and trade instead of trying to win a league
if you decide to use young players instead of experienced ones in your league games it's your call and fans wont be looking whether your squad has avg 18 or 30 years, but they would expect decent performance according to club resource
at least, that is how I hope it works
if you decide to use young players instead of experienced ones in your league games it's your call and fans wont be looking whether your squad has avg 18 or 30 years, but they would expect decent performance according to club resource
at least, that is how I hope it works
yeah i understand that.. but maybe they will try to make younger team and try to train them for at least 8 season and then they have strong and also young team :D ( that is my plan also, but i have also the privilege of playing in a weaker league/ nation with <15 users ) and you can do that but even in stronger leage its good way to train them for starting XI
What is the problem of big teams having a lot of money?
Can someone explain?
Seems communism has arrived to sk xd
Can someone explain?
Seems communism has arrived to sk xd
What is the problem of big teams having a lot of money?
Can someone explain?
Seems communism has arrived to sk xd
Can someone explain?
Seems communism has arrived to sk xd
Devs are mistaken.
There is no BAD THING as much money in the club.
On the contrary, it will be better for ALL TEAMS, if they have money to improve their teams.
Sokker it`s TOO SLOW...
Slow to grow youth players, slow to get nice incomes, slow to everything.
we, the older ones have grow our clubs for DECADES.
the best thing for the game IT`S not to take out money from the teams.
The best thing is give more tools to the users to get nice teams without have to wait for REAL YEARS.
THE ONLY MAIN IDEA of the new owners of the game was:
Make up front page.
and take money out of the teams in many many ways.
now, the teams have to do MORE THINGS or NEW THINGS to stay the same they where few years ago.
i repeat, I LIKE SOKKER VERY MUCH. But if some day you want to add NEW REAL USERS, you have to think in make the game more interesting, more equilibrated for New and Old users.
There is no BAD THING as much money in the club.
On the contrary, it will be better for ALL TEAMS, if they have money to improve their teams.
Sokker it`s TOO SLOW...
Slow to grow youth players, slow to get nice incomes, slow to everything.
we, the older ones have grow our clubs for DECADES.
the best thing for the game IT`S not to take out money from the teams.
The best thing is give more tools to the users to get nice teams without have to wait for REAL YEARS.
THE ONLY MAIN IDEA of the new owners of the game was:
Make up front page.
and take money out of the teams in many many ways.
now, the teams have to do MORE THINGS or NEW THINGS to stay the same they where few years ago.
i repeat, I LIKE SOKKER VERY MUCH. But if some day you want to add NEW REAL USERS, you have to think in make the game more interesting, more equilibrated for New and Old users.
As an example.
Cup matches, does not give you nice incomes. Maybe only in 2 or 3 last matches. It is worst on weak countries with a few real users.
Income for being champion of Argentinian first league (the league i know) is NOTHING. the same that 1 match income with high ranking teams.
Training and Selling players its the best way to get nice incomes, And for that you CAN NOT COMPITE.
Injuries time are crazy (you can lose a player for more than 8 offitial games)
If 1 club win the cup and the league, ONLY THAT CLUB GET A PLACE IN CHAMPIONS.
So Argentina (as example) gett only 1 place in champion and not 2
There is no motivation for teams that get 2nd and 3th place, as an "eurocup".
I see much much things done to GET OUT money, and non or few to incentivate users to play.
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Cup matches, does not give you nice incomes. Maybe only in 2 or 3 last matches. It is worst on weak countries with a few real users.
Income for being champion of Argentinian first league (the league i know) is NOTHING. the same that 1 match income with high ranking teams.
Training and Selling players its the best way to get nice incomes, And for that you CAN NOT COMPITE.
Injuries time are crazy (you can lose a player for more than 8 offitial games)
If 1 club win the cup and the league, ONLY THAT CLUB GET A PLACE IN CHAMPIONS.
So Argentina (as example) gett only 1 place in champion and not 2
There is no motivation for teams that get 2nd and 3th place, as an "eurocup".
I see much much things done to GET OUT money, and non or few to incentivate users to play.
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"i repeat, I LIKE SOKKER VERY MUCH. But if some day you want to add NEW REAL USERS, you have to think in make the game more interesting, more equilibrated for New and Old users."
You do realize that by taking money out of the game, they are actually trying to accomplish this.
Adding more money to the game works against newer users.
You do realize that by taking money out of the game, they are actually trying to accomplish this.
Adding more money to the game works against newer users.
For new users they have to take other changes.
give a team MORE THAN 250 000 to start sokker.
Make stadiums bigger. At least less expensive to remodelate.
you can give also 2 trainers to beggin (brillant or worst, but at least you can start training)
You also can give younger or nicer players.
i want to improve the game FOR EVERYBODY.
Most of the "manager games" are more nicer to new users.
give a team MORE THAN 250 000 to start sokker.
Make stadiums bigger. At least less expensive to remodelate.
you can give also 2 trainers to beggin (brillant or worst, but at least you can start training)
You also can give younger or nicer players.
i want to improve the game FOR EVERYBODY.
Most of the "manager games" are more nicer to new users.
Adding more money to the game works against newer users.
Not true, in fact it's exactly the opposite.
The more money there is in the market / among clubs, the higher the prices.
The higher the prices, the more money new users can earn on training.
Almost all in game costs are fixed - coach wages, youth school places, player wages, stadium improvements etc. - these are all fixed fixed prices that are not influenced by market money.
So the more money there is on the market, the easier it is for new users to afford stadium / coach / player / youth school improvements and the less they are limited by ticket / sponsor money.
You cut the money from users, you lower the prices, you lower the possible income from training & selling and in the end you slow down / limit the possibility to improve for new users, especially in smaller countries.
Not true, in fact it's exactly the opposite.
The more money there is in the market / among clubs, the higher the prices.
The higher the prices, the more money new users can earn on training.
Almost all in game costs are fixed - coach wages, youth school places, player wages, stadium improvements etc. - these are all fixed fixed prices that are not influenced by market money.
So the more money there is on the market, the easier it is for new users to afford stadium / coach / player / youth school improvements and the less they are limited by ticket / sponsor money.
You cut the money from users, you lower the prices, you lower the possible income from training & selling and in the end you slow down / limit the possibility to improve for new users, especially in smaller countries.
Almost all in game costs are fixed - coach wages, youth school places, player wages, stadium improvements etc. - these are all fixed fixed prices that are not influenced by market money.
So the more money there is on the market, the easier it is for new users to afford stadium / coach / player / youth school improvements and the less they are limited by ticket / sponsor mone
This is fair, if we're going to classify 'new users' as a year or less, this is correct.
After that, not so much. Once you get comfortable with your coaching staff and stadium, all you're concerning about is winning games, removing money in my view works better. Unless everyone somehow has so much money that they simply don't care to spend it all on overbuying players unnecessarily (player price inflation).
Lulidethista's idea about actual raw new players is a great and previously suggested idea that many people (including myself) agree with.
So the more money there is on the market, the easier it is for new users to afford stadium / coach / player / youth school improvements and the less they are limited by ticket / sponsor mone
This is fair, if we're going to classify 'new users' as a year or less, this is correct.
After that, not so much. Once you get comfortable with your coaching staff and stadium, all you're concerning about is winning games, removing money in my view works better. Unless everyone somehow has so much money that they simply don't care to spend it all on overbuying players unnecessarily (player price inflation).
Lulidethista's idea about actual raw new players is a great and previously suggested idea that many people (including myself) agree with.
Honestly for people with a lot of money not much would change... in fact for those that have 150m euro+ on accounts it's better if they remove money from the market from "normal people"... if the prices drop then their 150m euro is worth more because they can buy more with it.
As for "new but not newest" users, then it depends - if your plan is to buy good players and win then the lower prices the better; but if your plan is to slowly improve via training and selling, then lower prices mean lower profit.
As for "new but not newest" users, then it depends - if your plan is to buy good players and win then the lower prices the better; but if your plan is to slowly improve via training and selling, then lower prices mean lower profit.
As for other ides like better stadium for new users, higher fan club, better starting players, additional extra money bonus [for example 500k after 1 season, 1m after 2 seasons etc.] then yeah, all good and needed ideas.
funny to read your proposed ideas for supporting new users while I just got hit by a bug, which costs me seasonal bonus and reduces my fan mood... :-D