Subject: [idea] Proposal

And "not enough" is an answer

What he expects is to hear the price up front, because his issue, as he pointed out, is that it takes many hours to discuss ("what happens within several hours timeline:")

He can also give an offer up front

1. A: "Hi, I am interested in your player X, how much you want for him?"
2. B: "Hello fornado, I don't know, how much you pay?"
3. A: "I can pay 10 mill"
4. B: "Oh it is too low sorry"

so the 10m offer would be in point 1. not point 3., thus making the conversation shorter.

1. Hi I want to buy this player, I offer 10m
2. Hi, yes/no

Facts are that some people don't know the worth of their player and some just "go fishing" hoping that the buyer will present a higher offer than they would ask for

But yes, I would also like redone Transfer Announcements with one of those options

a. fixed price - someone agrees to pay = players goes on TL automatically
b. buyer send an offer / seller can accept it

It would need some kind of new taxes though, because it would be used as a workaround for the "set price" transfer tax
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How would it be used as a workaround?

To have a certainty that your buyer places the bid, you have to set the player on TL with a fixed price - which has a 2.5% tax.

You could just place the player on TA with the agreed price, the buyer would have to bid what you agreed = same result, without the 2.5% tax.

Same story with sending / accepting an offer.

Buyer has no risk, but in those TA scenarios doesn't have to pay the tax.

So possibly just a simple "if your player gets bought from TA then you have to pay a x% tax from final (or starting?) offer"

You could just place the player on TA with the agreed price, the buyer would have to bid what you agreed = same result, without the 2.5% tax.
Why would that work so stupidly? xd

1. you place player on TA with fixed price, then there are 2 options: A and B
A2. user X accepts that price by clicking something
A3. player goes on TL the moment user X accepted the price
A4. the 2.5% tax is taken from you, calculated from the fixed price You set
A5. after two days player is sold to user with highest bid and you also pay tax from final offer according to standard transfer tax rules

B2. no one accepts that price and ad disappears after some time, no money is taken from anyone, the player never land on TL

although B could have some tax also


potential buyer sending offer could work similarly, although I am not convinced about such possibility, could be used to spam users with low offerings for potentially good players (also how the buyer would know skills?)

As I’ve said - that’s why it would require taxation.

As for „how the buyer would know skills” - it would be an option to make an offer for TA listed player, so you would know the skills.

Some anti-spam restrictions would be needed. Properly done it could be a good Plus feature.

Good idea. Make the restriction PLUS only and with a max of 3 offers simultaniously f.e.

If this were only for plus users it would be the closest pay to win feature we would have.

I think 3 players as now is not too much

Why pay to win? The player still comes for sale in the normal restrictions, only with a higher starting price.

Not necessarily higher price, just easier to sell/buy. Possible buying for everyone, selling for Plus users only.

No. It's not the same. Probably you didnt get the idea.

Exactly. None of this writing in the topic is needed. Neither skmail.

If someone put the specific value for the player and you bid it automatcly turns into an standard auction with no writing needed.

If an offer was made and the onwer accpets. It turns into an auction. If rejected nobody looses almost no time in negociations.
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I like it, and the auction starts (and end) on the interested user time zone, brings fairness

+1 :-) :-)

i rethinked one more time whole idea.
it is such a great thing! usually when can you pay more? wen you need a player ASAP.
It is good for seller, usually he will get bigger price
It is good for buyer, he will receive the player in time and the market is much wider then
It is good for sokker as more money goes out from the market because bigger price - bigger taxes and announcement tax (negotiable)